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some things can be difficult to express
because the brain itself is a physical thing
the physical thing is restricted to operating according to the rules of the one living within the physical
Yet:
the one living in the physical *thinks* (be lie ves/believes) it is the thing (Life) formed by the physical world and remains largly unaware that the presence of 'the one living in the physical' is the existance that forms up the physical out of the DNA egg supplied by the physical world.
So as proved by
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one sees according to the programming established by what one sees
so what happens to the poor sucker that found it's way to this grand paradise of Eden from outside of Time and Space to indulge in the everlasting orgasm of Foreverness that to us living beings that have come here is such Trial and Tribulation?
How does that being inside the being we think it is ever find itself?
Christo Alado wrote:
This excerpt: "...find what you can do to think a better out of it..." actually reads well enough, which is to say, it makes sense... but perhaps it could be worded more simply like for instance...
"...find what you can do to think better of it..."
Christo
What I am endeavoring to express: There are myriad 'Things' in every single moment of our life surrounding us. People places times things and events are things we REact to seeing in accordance to what we are already programmed to ACCEPT things as
and yet when we drop this view, when we surrender it to itself and abandon the view and our programming and drop out into the surrender of sleep --- The Dreamer, who in fact may well be bound by the physical beings view gestalts is in fact more aligned with the Unknown Mysterious Spirit that is the Life in the dreamer as well as in the Physical Body. It is almost as if that Dreamer is more awake! So how do we awaken the Spirit inside the Human?
My suggestion is merely to consciously seek within all the people places times things and events
and know each moment is always CHANGING into the next moment
and seek to be an active dweller in the Now that is the timeless moment of Living change!
All our attitudes and agendas are mainly of the physical but attitudes and agendas are NOT PHYSICAL yet we live in them too as a world.
as I see the wording: "...find what you can do to think better of it..." it is still a thinking ruled by the DNA ego programmed by what is
In: "...find what you can do to think a better out of it..." I was not intending to allow the it to still be what we think it is. I was intending to raise up out of the "thing"s -*always*- or as much as posible a different than the way our physical world PAST sees a different thing 'out there' as if our mind itself had the Power to change reality
rather than just adjust our mind to cope with what the past provides
To find within whatever the momet is those things that you are able to imaginate "another" out of is sort of the chalenge
The concept of pumpkins into carriages and mice into footmen could seem a daunting thing to endeavor to accomplish
yet anyone can stick a seed into soil in a pot on the windowsill and 'think' a flower out of it rather than get a better opinion of the seed hidden unseen under the soil. So I presumed there would be things in everyones lives less daunting enough to take on as experimenting with 'Raising a better out of'
In my mind raising is liken to ascension. If we start with items that we can "Find" in accordance to our accepted capabilities - perhaps the talent will grow?
Perhaps WE can raise the ground of Earth into an ascension and when we bring our ground produces an ascended better up out of it via our personal efforts, we will be the ones standing on our ground.
Now in my personal opinion THAT GROUND would be an awesome thing to share with each other as a "Continuum" which is the Everlasting Now that we have all found our way to Here
AND - it might also even cause we ourselves to change
can you imagine both our physical selves AND our dreamers to be living in a then-merged world?
What could be possible in an Earth that eventually merged what is and what we think of it?
The power of the word is yours to share, thanks for sharing, Christo
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genniii wrote:
some things can be difficult to express
because the brain itself is a physical thing
the physical thing is restricted to operating according to the rules of the one living within the physical........
My suggestion is merely to consciously seek within all the people places times things and events
and know each moment is always CHANGING into the next moment
and seek to be an active dweller in the Now that is the timeless moment of Living change!
I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the thoughts expressed in your opening paragraph.
I enjoyed your thoughts on living in the Now, which is something I have difficulty doing.
As always, genniii this is a thought provoking post.
Amethyst
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Perhaps meaning that the 'physical thing'...aka the brain...is restiricted by way of the person, or the outer shell, who is operating the 'car' and driving the rules? ![]()
A great thought provoking post as always...![]()
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Amethyst wrote:
I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the thoughts expressed in your opening paragraph.
Amethyst
Amethyst
some things can be difficult to express
because the brain itself is a physical thing
the physical thing is restricted to operating according to the rules of the one living within the physical
Yet:
the one living in the physical *thinks* (be lie ves/believes) it is the thing (Life) formed by the physical world and remains largely unaware that the presence of 'the one living in the physical' is the existence that forms up the physical out of the DNA egg supplied by the physical world.
Think of an orb of light. Think of it as being alive, alive much as one might think of a Spirit as being alive even though it does not have a material body. Let's assume the 'orb' spirit has instead a 'Mental' body. Then let us assume the *I* of the mental body has consciousness. Consciousness presumes an awareness; if not also of self, at least of the surrounding environment. In this case of course, the surrounding environment would be the astral, ethric, mental realm because we specified a 'mental body'.
Now, let's give our little orb of light a soul in this picture. The soul is the memory bank which gives consciousness the sense of self built up from past experiences. So therefore the soul becomes 'Alphabet' foundation upon which experience is discerned in order to have experience actually take a form at least in the 'language' of perception of this little consciousness. Perhaps the soul has had previous lives, has already died a time or ten thousand times, Gone to the light and got a different view than it had while living the lives, gone further above the light to evaluate and plan and has found it's way back down to the Mental realm where we have just placed it.
So, by the way we just set up these parameters, this conscious orb of light energy hovering in the ethric would have an identity of self and the multitude of lives and whatever endeavors accomplished and goals yet being chased as an I with attitude and agenda. It wants to go further into the involution adventure and enter into a body of that material realm.
Why? one might ask would it submit to the trials and tribulations of life after doing the same so many times over and over and over and over? Conjecture if you would that perhaps "Out-There" that the poor little orb, every time it dies and goes to the light, is surrounded by a greatness that emanates from beings that are different than it is. Even in the astral mental realm, although through a glass darkly (although not as dark as the material realms veils) it is able to see greater lights than that which is it's current state. If those lights became greater and could go more places and do more things than our poor orb wants to do that too. Our orb is absolutely positively sure it can accomplish what those who once were in it's own situation accomplished.
It knows Life in the material body is where the I is morphed into what it perceives as greatness. Life in the 'material' of where all interact is the door to a greater interaction than all the long aeons of doing everything possible in all the planes it came down through to get to where it now awaits a fertilised DNA of Earth egg to enter into. It isnt interested in other varieties of togetherness continuum material. It yearns for the beauty of the Earth Human. It knows absolutely what it wants. The passion to dive into the purifying alchemical fires of life on Earth is it's goal.
So, it becomes next in line. It begins it's mission. The coupling vortex of the copulating couple rise up to where it waits and it dives in. It's own field rules the outcome of fortune, providence and what so many call pure chance. The sperm cell best suited becomes the one that happens. It is picking up where it left off to go into it's own personal next moment in the everlasting now of the Earth Continuum.
For months then it comes and goes. It has a home developing in the fluids of the womb but it sojourns as those others who have been in the same situation have always sojourned. Then it's completed new home is delivered out of the womb into the realm.
At first the experiences within the bodyl is as if it was all a dream. Where it was sojourning becomes seemingly more material. The more it learns the material, the more it forgets the journey to the material. The fertile brain bit by bit absorbs and becomes entangled in the material. To be able to continue it's sojourns, it's temporary stays in what it is more used to, it has to abandon the brain and it's body. What is going on in the realm of the brain and body however begins more and more to affect what it perceives in the realms it sojourns into when it lays down the life of the brain and the body that now rules it's existence.
The brain is a marvellous tool. It can process information and energies of all the realms it has come down through. However when it is in the body all the energies of all the other realms do not pay what it would consider to be proper attention to it's body. They do not hold the body, nor feed it, nor change it's diaper. It is only other bodies also on Earth that now facilitate it's being alive. It is this facilitation that gets it's attention. The brain becomes hardwired to what happens in the physical rather than in the sojourns. Thus the brain itself forms a physicalness that is oriented to the physical. Other areas of the brain that do not process the physical become unused, remain dormant and unformed. Thus also causing atrophying of the related body parts outside the brain case that might be greater developed were more of the brain actively used. The body is facilitated by a physical brain restricted to operating according to the rules of the one living within the physical and believing itself to be a physical being because physical senses are the only ones the brain pays attention to.
When the Life orb is drawn back by Earth World thoughts to the Earth world brain that process them, The sojourn becomes forgotten, overcome into oblivion oft by a single earth life thought. While awake other world information assimilations are interpreted within the coloration of physical world conceptions and the interpretation overcomes all other worldly attempts at getting attention.
The identity of the one who joined the fertilized egg is abandoned. A new identity is formed up out of the world based on the Earth life. Time and Space facilitate and allow the eternal Now moment to go through changes. The Quantum being dwelling in the body does not perceive superstrings and quanta particle streams dancing changes in harmonies with the words, thoughts and actions of the one living. The individual connection of life to the collective Universe remains largely unknown. The dreamer itself morphs into dealing with the entanglements as pictured by worldly manifestation experienced in the manifested realm. The dreamer itself becomes "of this world" but not in it.
When the body dies and the dreamer again is the root identity back where the orb first was waiting for a body to be available, it still owns the mental construct built up by life in the spheres of Earth. Some take time but most will be drawnback to the light and begin again at the beginning.
There are always exceptions.
Some delve deeper than the surface life and spend time in different consciousness. For some it can be daydreaming, for some contemplation, for some meditation and for some it is noticing those things of the soul that may be stronger than many of the time and space that they yet dwell in. For those who spend time in those other spaces while awake and conscious, the brain begins to record other than from the physical. The amount those other 'adventures' become real is up to the ones having the adventure. For some, the superstring connections to the material world is never perceived. Some hunger more for the maths and sciences which many writings speak of yet can never capture with Earth contrived words.
Some, however, do grow into greater.
Where they go and what they do, others can only conjecture.
Until they join those who have gone on to a different.
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genii said"My personal symbolic representation of this 'Change' has been as a 'Concert' where 'New Music' would be played for a gathered audience."
okay, genii, even though your name is a plural, i can definitely 100% agree with that part.
plus, it's SO possible. thing is,
it's gotta come from the heart. stuff like that can't turn into a corporate venture like "the burn" or lollapalooza or it will lose meaning INSTANTLY...it's gotta come from from the heart.
i think enlightened people realise that when things come from the heart, money barriers vanish.
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cataleptik wrote:
plus, it's SO possible. thing is,
it's gotta come from the heart. stuff like that can't turn into a corporate venture like "the burn" or lollapalooza or it will lose meaning INSTANTLY...it's gotta come from from the heart.
i think enlightened people realise that when things come from the heart, money barriers vanish.
Sing unto him a new song; play skilfully with a loud noise.
-Psalm 33.3
Reality is created by sound, tones, harmonics.
The spheres are the harmonics on the Tree of Life.
They are the wheels of synchronicity that create the illusion of linear time.
Musica universalis (lit. universal music, or music of the spheres) is an ancient philosophical concept that regards proportions in the movements of celestial bodies—the Sun, Moon, and planets—as a form of musica (the Medieval Latin name for music). Many *claim* this 'music' is not literally audible, but a harmonic and/or mathematical and/or religious concept.
However throughout the ages there have always been some with ears to hear just as there have always been those that have the eyes to see.
There is a legend that Pythagoras could hear the 'music of the spheres' enabling him to discover that consonant musical intervals can be expressed in simple ratios of small integers. Pythagoras told the Egyptian priests that Thoth had spoken to him and given him the ability to hear the harmony of the spheres.
There is always balance and harmony in time distance and space.
Ere of old the sounds fit the times and as times and sounds change, thus morphs the musics.
There is a whole yet man mixes and matches in accordance to what is known and perceived in the moment.
Muse is what music was named after. Each of the sciences of old was said to have a guiding spirit, a source of inspiration yet the whole is alive and the nine separations are really portions of a greater One.
Spirit is merely the unseen just as gravity is unseen except through influence.
The muse through times entered into men and women, not because they held Corporate Office nor even the political. Priesthood bequeathed by Man or Woman also held little interest to the Muses that always have been Free and Wild as WildLife.
The Bards, ere in times of yore, reached for; thus was given. For there were harps and drums and cymbals but then came the two reeds, just as the Two Witnesses - the Divine and the Divine Profane in Flesh and Blood, The two influencing each other to bring forth that which can be varied between each other.
As I write this, now, on June the Third, in this the Month and the day before the two hundredth and thirty fourth year of the Proclamation of Freedom and Independence Upon Earth of the People by the emerging united states, the New Music already is literally audible to many.
This causes influence. Just as ere of old the bards rose up to sing the news in seeking bread, wine and bed; up from out of what today are musicians will rise those who find liken unto themselves to play with. Just like birds reach the moment where they come out of the egg or butterflies find the time to emerge from cocoon, the groups will find Coalescence into co-operative ventures that will bring forth the concerts.
Each of us alive in flesh and blood are our own frequency information spectrum of the Whole Light that is inhabiting a body by running the brain. Every thing of consciousness and much of the unconscious fires the in-light-mentation flashes of co operative brain neurons that is percieved even by our instruments used for brain scans. These 'fireworks' are that which adds spice and flavorings as 'salt of the earth' to the bloodstream that feeds the very cells of the blood pump heart but also all the other cells of the body that, Yes, do influence the non-material Heart that also resides in the chest and even weighs thirteen ounces. This heart is attached by the spinal cord to the brain which maintains it in an atmosphere of body *influencing* into being, co operatively with all others in flesh and blood, the very atmospheres of particle flows we Know as 'Now' that we dwell inside as bodies.
Have no fear, it will come THROUGH hearts.
Just as that which we are leaving came through hearts and that which we must yet go through will come through hearts, little as we may wish to claim we brought such through what is ending, It is indeed the possession of hearts which be that which shall provide our delivery!
We were seeded long ago. We were also tampered with long ago.
The race was brought forth to be slaves. Such is all irrelevant.
Now is now. All that are alive with earth DNA rose up out of what is Now.
What and Who we are now in Earth Flesh and Blood, in a gestalt hugely greater than any sum of parts, are the Spice, Salt, Flavoring influence that bring forth what we call our reality on our planet as the Lazar of light bringing forth our own configuration within a vastly greater whole that we still remain a portion of.
There is esoteric within the exoteric always. There is "Without a heart" that is in tantrum. The "without-heart" has no power in the greater Heart Light EXCEPT THROUGH THE EMOTIONS OF THOSE WITH HEARTS.
This is just the way the particle flows flow.
It is also just the way other flows roll.
What I mean is that almost any gathering is always the mixture of who is there. But when the bands get together and the instruments are set up, almost everyone notes when the tuning up begins.
When the music starts, it is the music that surrounds.
It is the music that touches the soul and the music gives the heart gladness and joy as POWER that is given to the brain.
For such was what was hidden in Psalm 144
To The Whole, The greater I that dwells within Shall Sing A New Song
On the living quantum superstrings will come forth the ten hidden Talents of the divine to praise the greater Whole.
It is this in the people that will give the leaders salvation and deliver those that come forth from hurt.
We shall be delivered from they are unknown, that seek to have us accomplish but in vain, for what they provide is false
Our sons and our daughters shall have their own selves once again to dwell within in Majesty.
We shall store our own wealths of diverse varieties in fullness that thousands and ten thousands shall also do in all our common spaces. Our animals and machines will be strong in our assistance. There shall be abundance and beauty returned to the gardens and the streets we share shall also bloom anew greater. There will be no complaining for the people shall be happy. Yeah, indeed, the people shall be happy for the whole shall be coming out of each part.
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PS Money is not evil
It only gets contorted by the particle flows that come out of people's hearts
That is only a portion of what needs to be fixed, but the economic particle flows are already flowing into chaos for the Angels of Creation to form new fractals for
My Blessings To All
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Here I am again.
I keep saying to myself that I aint having anything more to do with this thread
but here I am back again.
I woke up way too early today.
so I decided to meditate
Once I was finished recording what occured
I knew I would post here so I added a paragraph at the top hoping that such would give my friends here a perspective that I knew was part of what I had seen
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Greece is having it's problems with the people who are the country not obeying the leaders who claim to own them and speak for them.
The problem is that the people are having a hard life while those who tell them how they have to live enjoy all the things that the common people are in lack of. However the ones having a hard life are still supposed to work and do the things that support the lifestyles of those who enjoy the benefits.
I had another vision.
I was part of a meeting of a small core group. I was in an office type facility. There was a call for something needed for the meeting to the front office. Apparently the core group was supposed to be in charge of a bigger group that were expected to do the planning and designing of the rules of the game being played and the core group needed something from the rule group. One of the core group thought the call was not being answered fast enough and started to go for a door to go say in person what was needed and obtain a response. The door would not open. Another call was made. The response was wait.
What I saw in the vision at that point was a very slow dawning of bewilderment amongst the core group that they were unable to get out of the room they were in. It was a captivity and they were unable to perceive what was going on outside the windowless room they were in.
I went to the back of the room we few were in and somehow went through the secure wall to get out of there. That put me into a vast facility that was supposed to be supporting those in the room I had just left. it was empty of people and all the sterile office type machinery was idle and unmanned. I had to pierce through another barrier to get further outside.
There was a road but I had to go further 'out' to a semi wilderness at the edge of woods and natural land.
There I found the teeming masses. In contrast to the meeting I had come from where absolutely nothing was being done while the leaders waited for whatever they had asked for, the People were active and alive and doing. What they were doing was protesting, as like a 1960s protest, There were country type clothes and camo uniforms and scarves as face masks as if it was a large party with the same theme. There were no leaders of the party but rather each individual had exactly the same purpose. The trees somehow were part of the purpose.
The trees were a part because all over the world wherever there were trees, the same party was alive and in progress.
As I got close to the trees, I heard chanting. A group seemed to know I had come from the meeting where my vision had started. They surged for me and I had urge to run for what was another place of trees. There seemed to be more of the group there that then opened up a path for me and I ran deep into the opening in the trees and the crowd. As I got into it the chant turned into actual words.
The words were:
"UNDER FUCKIN MONKEY GAMES" "UNDER FUCKIN MONKEY GAMES" "UNDER FUCKIN MONKEY GAMES" "UNDER FUCKIN MONKEY GAMES" "UNDER FUCKIN MONKEY GAMES" over and over and over with an in the face directed intensity of power that was alive and vital and aligned with the voices in my head and my mouth too took up the chant of "UNDER FUCKIN MONKEY GAMES"
As I was part of the crowd chanting a vehicle came into the crowd. The crowd had all previously been on foot but now this vehicle had come into the crowd just as I had just come into the crowd. Then I was the driver. The vehicle was full of people. I turned to a young lady in the crowd in the back seat. I was chanting "UNDER FUCKIN MONKEY GAMES" to her.
What seemed was that all over the world wherever there was trees, "UNDER FUCKIN MONKEY GAMES" was being chanted but perhaps this lady was not understanding the words were actual words just as I did not hear the words until I entered into the trees.
The lady looked into my eyes. I did not chant it. I said it simply and clearly. "Under fuckin monkey games"
With her hearing the words, the chants outside turned into a roar all over the world but it became like singing. The singing put some kind of an additional influence in it such that instead of a protest, it was now a cohesion. It was as if it had turned into a Gregorian Chant except that the cadence was still the same but now there was a oneness of is rather than a resistance against anything.
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Re reading the above post, I found a place where spell check didnt catch something because while I had indeed mis spelled, I had written a different word than intended
I edited to correct
and thought of something and had to go reread the beginning
I wondered if the recent G 2o ,
meeting in Canada is not delivering sometheng that was expected by whoever sets up those meetings
Sometimes I really wished when I wrote the first post of this thread I had chosen to instead give it the title
"Things have been in changing for a long time"
but ya always gotta move on into the future from where you are eh? ............ grin
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