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#1 2010-06-02 13:04:36

cataleptik
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for virtual and actual starship engineers

i have never had any one-on-ones with lavar.  i don't know how legit lamar is -- or isn't.  i am not the sort of person to assume that just because i have not had firsthand experience with something, it isn't real...

the FOX News arrogant hypocrites and jingoes -- i leave that to them.  they don't represent anything NEAR the high percentile of United States or global intelligence -- rather, they are the fascist propaganda mouthpiece that is on. 


what lavar has had to say has been very intriguing, whether it has been science fiction or what it actually seems to be, which would be the MOST exciting thing yet to happen to humanity.    one way or another i am staying with it, and yes, in part because what FOXNews and the other propaganda mouthpieces represent is the utter opposite of journalism...

...propaganda, owned by fiscal governors, biased and pandering in the most counter-intellectual and misleading of ways.  as such i humbly know that i represent sincere independent journalism -- while the major United States propaganda nets represent MilDec -- Military Deception on a total and global scale.  The lie via omission remains a lie.  I know that there is such a thing as biased and honest reportage, as much as any human being dazzled by the evolving flow of events can be honest about things that are often beyond the sphere of their personal experience...

---Point 2:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42295000/jpg/_42295868_air_wright.jpg

"Thou art God, and I am  God and all that groks is God."
- Robert Heinlein, Stranger in a Strange Land

The reason that I point out the overt counter-informational bias of Rupert Murdoch's personal propaganda organization that is named after a prominent and reliable twentieth-century entertainment biz -- is simply complicated.

What we have discussed at Starship Capricorn, even disregarding the controversy of whether or not Lavar has been utterly honest, or taking us all for a DIFFERENT kind of ride -- has been some of the most important things to occur ever, unprecedented in the development of confirmably recorded human history. 

And FOXNews rather arrogantly sends the United States and the world smirks, giggles, panty-shots and 'those amazin' animals' and no actual news about things that could stimulate humanity's sense of wonder about  what is beyond.


Either they refuse to report on it because Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox, is a fiscal governor and foresworn to the policy of utter denial that the United States has been involved with ever since flimsy weather-balloon stories came out of Roswell in 1947, or WHATEVER the reason -- it's a dangerous pattern of compulsive and ROBOTIC dishonesty...

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#2 2010-06-02 13:13:27

cataleptik
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Re: for virtual and actual starship engineers

I have been active on the internet since about...the 1990s.

Chris Zelov, my mentor, held one of the first publicized internet cafes in the United States at our old lab, Cafe Kairos, in 1990.  We successfully set up teleconferencing between America, Europe and Asia and let the public use it for gratuity or "love offerings" long before the internet had expanded to the level of use it is now, twenty years later.  i am humbled by the deep meaning of that, even this relatively few and long many years later.

it was the time, more or less, of one-colored screens and SysOps.  Since then humanity's collective skill in manipulating silicon has gotten to a more simple-to-use level, but there is still a long way to go. It could possibly be said to be infinite in potential.


I personally have had a bit of experience with online message boards dedicated to a single topic.  I have seen them max out in membership and interest and then, due to a lack of real human connectedness between members, seen them 'go derelict' -- i can go back to virtual places that i recall having fun and stare sadly as people i don't know put their big dirty boots all over my rosebed and poop in the reflecting pool.

(virtually) As far as this place goes --

what is being discussed here, as far as I am humbly concerned -- is so very important that it needs to go on.



It needs to go on.   does it matter than videos can't be embedded here, or that the interface is so outdated that i need to use clumsy BBCode just to italicize -- some stuff is so hard to learn to do that it might as well be impossible.

This all sort of sadly goes along with the "Never A Straight Answer" runaround about this whole area of enquiry.

At the same time, moving forward towards success depends on the actions of the people who care. I'm not a robot, I'm a journalist who strives for impartiality and objective analysis. 

perhaps, that being said, in personal interactions on line i go even farther and harder to express the passion of my opinions.  It's weird, and again I think of the FOXnews mainstream propaganda -- because those who are invested in lying by omission can seem far more robotic and machine-like than people who are striving for objective and impartial analysis...

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#3 2010-06-02 13:28:20

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Re: for virtual and actual starship engineers

The Metaphor of Capricorn, the Sea-Goat


Zodiac Signs
Capricorn Mythology: Capricorn the Sea Goat – 10th among 12 Zodiac Signs
Aug 19th, 2009
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Capricorn Mythology, i.e., the mythology of Capricorn the Sea Goat, 10th among 12 zodiac signs addresses Bacchus and the earthborn giant Typhoeus describing how Bacchus saved Jupiter from being torn into pieces at the hands of Typhoeus.

Capricorn Mythology

According to the myth, as the giant Typhoeus suddenly appeared on earth, he tried to make horrible efforts to tear Jupiter into pieces and turn him out of existence.

Capricorn Mythology

As it happened that Bacchus witnessed Typhoeus, he was feasting on the banks of the river Nile at that time. He didn't waste time and jumped into the river. As he did, the part of his body submerged in the river turned into that of a fish. The rest of the body turned a goat.

Capricorn Mythology

The moment Bacchus turned a sea goat; he could visualize what Typhoeus was going to do with Jupiter. He immediately blew a shrill note on his pipes. As Typhoeus heard the warning notes alerting Jupiter, he immediately fled out of the scene and hid himself in obscurity.

Capricorn Mythology

As a gesture of thanks, Jupiter placed the new sea goat shape of Bacchus as a constellation in the heavens. And the constellation has stayed there since antiquity.

Capricorn Mythology

This is how the Capricorn Mythology, i.e., the mythology of Capricorn the Sea Goat, 10th among 12 zodiac signs goes according to what the legend says. The constellation lies between those of Aquarius and Sagittarius low on the southern horizon.


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The symbols of western astrology go back very very far in human memory. I recall reading that the Sea-Goat symbol of the sun-sign Capricornus has to do with EA, one of the divinities of the ancient Mesopotamian/Babylonia family of divinities which also included Dumuzi, Inanna, Eresh-Kigal, Nergal and Marduk.  These are religious "icons" far older than any of the "new gods" of Monotheism...

i have also read that Capricorn relates to striving and perserverance.  as astrology and its symbols have advanced and retreated in terms of favor with ruling powers, the symbols have changed...until a sea-goat becomes a mountain goat.

As I write this I feel a weird psychical presence, as if there were something somewhere that desperately and vehemently did NOT wish for me or anyone to be thinking deeply about this subject. And it makes sense.  Astrology as a science has been heavily denied in the last 1,000 years, as heavily denied as the alleged existance of 'ancient astronauts' or extraterrestrial intelligences has been denied since the period after the second world war...

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