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we need new members

Yeah, can't get to it.

I find it on this web site, it in a book that you can buy. http://store.innertraditions.com/Produc … 79181-33-5 Anyone want to buy a book?

And the search on that title: http://www.google.com/search?q=Pleiadia … =firefox-a

I gave a start anyone want to complete it?

cataleptik wrote:

.....the idea that people showed up and complained but no one did any further research....

Actually, Cataleptik, you are the only one who has done any complaining. You posted a dud link and, in my opinion, for perfectly reasonable reasons, got no response... and you haven't stopped making supercilious comments about it since. In fact, you have a tendency to make judgemental "shotgun" comments about all of us, one way or another, which is rather odd really, because you haven't a clue who or what any of us are, what or how we think, or even why we come here. We only know of each other that which we reveal in our posts and we are respectful of each other's views, whether we agree or not. As far as I'm aware, this place isn't about argument and discord, or even snide comments; it's about sharing information and knowledge. And what one chooses to run with hinges on how it resonates with each individual. So, peace, Cataleptik...you're entitled to your opinions of us all, but perhaps you shouldn't base them on rash assumptions.

By the way, is http://cataleptik.deadjournal.com your website? Hmmm, interesting.

I mean, since the message is clearly so important, why not make a light summary of what's said on the book to spice up out appetites?

That said, I suppose you enjoy being the conflicting, dissonant type here in the forums, and the  fact that none of these good people has ever really snarled back at you should be enough proof for you that maybe we are of a different breed, and maybe those lies, propaganda and evil-doing that you're so inclined to fight, and that you're so rooted to also because of it, really don't come into our sphere of existence.

I mean, I have before focused on the same things as you, on how people are manipulated and controlled and how all the evil-doers in the World are pulling the strings and laughing it up. But there came a time when I realized that what I'm supposed to do in this world and this lifetime is a lot more about healing and helping than with finger pointing and whistle blowing.

If that's your mission, that's fine. Clearly you've embraced it, and are doing a good job at it. But don't expect everyone to just follow you on command and go do what you think it is best. Or you won't be much better than "them", will you?

I just realized something from my post from the Matthew Ward message Surya posted yesterday so I thought I'd add this to the mix -

organic wrote:

Me and hubby work with people who have exited the Mormon Church.  We help them to rebuilt their lives since many know they had to leave but had no clue where to go once they left.  I can tell you from personal experience that people are leaving the Mormon Church in droves.  It is truly a remarkable thing to actually witness this mass exodus that is taking place right now on our planet.  Within even a mere 5 years from when we actually left the Mormon Church in 2005, the acceleration of resignations is startling.  Other religions are following suit.  People ARE waking up, and quite painfully and angrily, too.  We offer support as peoples' worlds crumble down around them and then help them to pick up the pieces.  I can honestly say that among all the mind controlling constructs that have been in place on our planet since the beginning of time, it is religion that has THE most strangle hold over peoples' lives.  Hence, the mindblowing experience each and every person experiences upon 'waking up' is like being hit over the head with a two by four.  These people are in such a fragile state of mind and need much love and compassion and direction so that they have the confidence within themselves to truly go within and trust themselves to find all the answers they seek. 

If this will help anyone, religion is no different then any other controlling construct...but here's the thing...even though we help people who are ready to exit the Mormon Church, we do it in a dignified and respectful way TOWARD the Mormon Church.  We have learned that no good comes from bashing the Mormon Church along the way...it serves no purpose...believe me, your world is pretty much turned upside down when you finally figure out that a belief system isn't what it's cracked up to be...but think about it...there are so many websites out there with plenty of people bashing Mormons...many of these people who post and bash have ALREADY left the church...of what purpose does it serve to keep bashing that religion or any religion for that matter?...it still locks you into the 'victim' gerbil on a wheel mentality...these people are still stuck...now I must admit that there are some aspects of the Mormon religion, that in retrospect, I have laughed my butt off with the absurdity of it all...O.K. fine!...but process it and move on!...because how I see it, not only do you remain the victim, but you are also keeping others out there who are looking for the 'what next now that I've left the church' from possibly moving on, too...I guess it's all about surrendering and letting go so you can move on and as long as you remain the victim of what the Mormon church has done to you, you remain stuck...that sucks and that's sad...when we help people, we always want them to know that their time as a Mormon was the right time for them at that time in their lives for however long it was...my time was 25 years!...was it a waste?...NO!!!...nothing is ever a waste!...everything serves a purpose IF you allow yourself to see the bigger picture...I, personally, am grateful for my 25 years as a Mormon...irregardless of the mind control, I learned great things in being a better human being...and when I awoke, I was ready to move on and it is BECAUSE of the Mormon church and not IN SPITE of it, that I finally DID see the light...so I thank my time in 'bondage' per say for allowing me to finally move on!...hope this helps someone...and remember, if you want to HEAL you have to FEEL first...so work through your emotional baggage so you CAN heal, otherwise you remain stuck...AND THEN RELEASE AND MOVE ON!

Are we all having fun evolving?...finding our own paths?...hope you're all having your own personal 'fun' along the way! 

Love,
MamaBear

Last edited by organic (2010-05-27 15:38:16)

aries wrote:

organic wrote:

!...perhaps some of you older fart posters around here remember me and my rantings about wanting an eye for an eye with sticking it to Bush and Cheney with the death penalty?...boy oh boy was I in the right!..

oh yes i do remember quite well those talkings and i was really wondering why you, as a sort of enlightened being here, were insisting on revenge in this particular case.
organic, i am very happy to see your change you have gone through within the last months that is reflecting in your comments, which i sense very positive in nature and this loving vibes that you spread. thank you for that and keep on going like this

It goes way back to my years as a Mormon and my love for the Book of Mormon at that time and that whole 'Moroni and the Title of Liberty' story with how they justified back then issurectionists to the government...I'll spare you the story, but it was just another 'belief' I held onto very strongly...and add to the mix my love for America and my upbringing within the American political system and bingo! I became a stauch supporter of the death penalty...yet another belief that I had to let go of...it was the karma thing that slapped me a good one...

Quercus wrote:

I just put it down to her boiling hot blooded Irishness

That's because Irish lasses don't take crap from anyone...it's in our blood...

Last edited by organic (2010-05-28 14:41:41)