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Update #1 - http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data … 1242248786
I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS FOR THE “FREEDOM PROGRAM”.
I WAS ALSO ASKED TO HAVE THIS ACTUAL VERBAGE POSTED ON FOURWINDS—SO THE MEMBERS WOULD KNOW THAT THE PHONE CALL THEY WILL RECEIVE IS LEGITIMATE AND WAS AS DIRECTED.
THIS NOTIFICATION IS FOR FREEDOM MEMBERS ONLY. IT DOESN’T APPLY TO ANY OTHER PROGRAM.
THANK YOU PATRICK.
You are a Member of “The Freedom Program”, and I have been asked to share some information with you regarding this program.
THIS NOTIFICATION IS FOR FREEDOM MEMBERS ONLY. IT DOESN’T APPLY TO ANY OTHER PROGRAM.
You will be receiving a phone call from an Official for Freedom, giving you instructions.
This is not a “Prank Call”.
Please follow the instructions you will be given.
This phone call will tell you Where you will need to go to PICK UP your Freedom
Package. This PICK UP will be at your local airport. You will be told where to go and when to be there. Please follow ALL directions you will be given…and then follow all directions that are contained in the package.
WE have finally arrived at the time that we believe this CAN and WILL BE COMPLETED.
Please do not call me back for more information as I don’t have any more at this time, and I am not authorized to speak further on this program.
I do not have further information on the other Humanitarian Programs that are also in this funding window.
THEY will continue to update you with phone calls …IF NECESSARY.
Again. DO NOT CALL ME. You will be notified by phone, by an official with Freedom with more information .
THIS NOTIFICATION IS FOR FREEDOM MEMBERS ONLY. IT DOESN”T APPLY TO ANY OTHER PROGRAM.
Update #2 - http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data … 1242272409
This update is for ALL Americans in ALL programs and ALL the people of the World in offshore programs and for the Countries themselves awaiting their funding.
In D.C. they think they can "weather the storm".
WE say "no you can't".
No one has suffered more than American Program Participants as years of lies and delays and sabotage have hurt so many while the BUSH/ CLINTON CRIME SYNDICATE NOW MANAGED BY OBAMA has pulled every dirty trick in the book and flooded our country and the world with worthless toxic crap paper then charged it to the taxpayers when their financial frauds fell apart. The CRIMINAL ACTS involved and the suffering brought upon the people as a result are far to great to be measured or adequately described. They have stolen the wealth and the future of the American people along with the wealth of all the countries which stored their assets in the U.S..
"Their" position remains as it has been, they will do anything to avoid loss of control, funding, new banking, announcements and exposure.
Programs participants around the world, including the Countries themselves, must get off their butts and fight for what is rightfully theirs/yours and to help in every way possible to see to it that the CRIMINALS in D.C. can not "weather the storm". Those who fight for you every day need your help. This is the time to do anything you can do, to make every call you can make, to demand an end to the delays and sabotage by the D.C. Criminal Class. Now is the time for the Countries to get off your butts, to stop running your mouths and to stand up and fight for what is yours.
All of us, at every level, must act as one and now bring every conceivable pressure from every conceivable direction.
Tonight the JAPANESE EMBASSY in D.C. is putting out the word that no one authorized the "notification process" to begin today. That is a bald faced lie. This is further collusion with OBAMA. The WORLD COURT and the JAPANESE GOVERNMENT itself says tonight the "notification process" WAS AND IS AUTHORIZED.
The Japanese in D.C. say tonight the World Court is nothing but a bunch of WIMPS and that they "will show them they do not control us nor can they do anything to us".
As you can observe there are brush fires and fist fights going on everywhere simultaneously. The only participants not being heard from are the VICTIMS THEMSELVES which are the program participants here and abroad. STAND UP AMERICA. STAND UP COUNTRIES. There is so much at stake. They have already stolen your Gold. What is required for you to STAND AND FIGHT? We can not leave the playing field to the CRIMINALS. Neither we in the U.S. or you can withstand the continued onslaught of DEBT they are using to prop up their CRIMINAL ENTERPRISES. Either we stop it now or we succumb to the permanent slavery they have planned for us.
Because OBAMA continues to order the carriers and the military not to deliver it appears it will be necessary to move all packs for all programs to major airports for pick up by program participants. If this plan holds together overnight as directed by The World Court and The Japanese Government we expect them to notify everyone tomorrow by phone with the possibility that times and locations may be furnished for distribution from one program participant to another. The packages will be held for pick up by us at an airport near us for 24 hours before being returned to D.C.. This information comes to you through US from the Japanese Government itself.
We must then look to the package itself for further instructions.
casper 5-13-09 #2
P.S. There are rumors out there that Freedom and/or other Program notifications are going on tonight.
Official Notifications with Instructions for Pick Up will not begin until Thursday/Tomorrow.
casper 5-14-09 #1
THIS UPDATE IS FOR FREEDOM PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS ONLY.
GEORGE BUSH, JOHN ROBERTS, OBAMA, nor GEITHNER have any legal grounds or authority to lien money in the FREEDOM PROGRAM.
These are PRIVATE FUNDS IN INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNTS which have not been paid to participants due to never ending EMBEZZLEMENT and blockage of deliveries.
Rumors suggesting the above are FALSE.
THIS IS "OFFICIAL" FROM THE WORLD COURT.
casper 5-14-09 #1
TO ALL FREEDOM MEMBERS #1
WE have been told to "Sit Down and Relax".
WE know there are many many questions that appear to have no answers.
The Official Notifications will provide the answers to the majority of questions.
The "window" for delivery is open.
There is to be No Speculation, Rumor or Innuendo.
WE will provide more information as necessary.
You know the source.
Open mind until something proves otherwise
Last edited by Lofty (2009-05-14 18:25:15)
PLEASE FOLKS....SETTLE DOWN!
STOP SPREADING LIES, RUMORS AND BALONEY!!!!
THE FACTS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
A SMALL percentage of people in Freedom received calls yesterday.
These were HEADS UP phone calls telling the Freedom member that they would
receive another call from an Official with Freedom.
Not ALL members got those calls--just a small percentage.
PLEASE STOP REFERRING YOUR FRIENDS TO THE OFFICE FOR CHANGES TO ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS.
THIS OFFICE CAN NOT AND WILL NOT MAKE CHANGES FOR YOU.
THERE IS PROTOCAL.
MAKE THOSE CHANGES THRUI THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR.
OR GO BACK TO THE PERSON THAT INTRODUCED YOU TO THIS PROGRAM FOR ASSISTANCE.
DO NOT CALL THIS OFFICE FOR THOSE CHANGES OR WITH QUESTIONS.
The OFFICIAL NOTIFICATION CALLS HAVE NOT STARTED.
Those calls will have specific information as to WHERE TO GO..WHEN TO GO.
Those calls are expected to begin very soon--but they HAVE NOT STARTED.
Don't go rushing off to the airport. Yet.
YOU WILL BE NOTIFIED.
YOU WILL HAVE ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS.
THE FREEDOM MEMBERSHIP/PEOPLE need to stop passing around info that is not TRUTH.
You've waited for years. You can wait a little bit more to get to the goal.
MANY PEOPLE ARE WORKING FEARLESSLY and ENDLESSLY in YOUR BEHALF.
MANY PEOPLE ARE TO BE THANKED FOR WHAT THEY HAVE ACCOMPLISHED. WITHOUT THESE WARRIORS....YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE RECEIVED ANYTHING!
STOP COMPLAINING..it's does NO GOOD.
STOP SPREADING RUMORS AND LIES.
BE QUIET !!
Wendy ( of the "WE" group)
casper 5-14-09 #2
The World Court has just advised (2p.m. EST) "We will not be able to notify the people today regarding package pick-up at the airports after all".
Yesterday afternoon and evening the "Official Word" from the Court was that instructions for distribution to the Freedom Participants, to include times and pick-up locations, would be provided at 9 a.m. EST this morning by fax from the Court with public posting allowed.
WE are aware that BUSH, CLINTON, OBAMA, ROBERTS and much of the D.C. CRIMINAL CLASS have again been demanding, overnight and this morning, immunity from the World Court.
Every hour on the hour this morning the Court has advised that the FAX containing instructions is nearly ready and will be forthcoming within minutes.
WE must now question what is going on, to what extent are they involved in further shenanigans with the BUSH/CLINTON/OBAMA bunch and which side of the fence they are on at this particular moment. This morning they said the immunities had been denied, circumstances cause us to wonder if this was/is true. We were "moment to moment", suddenly we are "not today". WE smell a skunk.
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING OVER THERE? Have you been lying to us AND THE COUNTRIES SINCE YESTERDAY, OR JUST SINCE THIS MORNING?
Are YOU again stalling to accommodate the U.S. CRIMINALS BUSH, CLINTON & OBAMA or are YOU NOW FOLLOWING THE ORDERS OF THE QUEEN & HIGGINS.
WE are fed up with this crap.
WE are aware some of you don't want the programs paid out at all so allow US to advise you that they will be paid and WE MEAN NOW.
WE have withheld INTELL thinking its disclosure unnecessary in view of pending deliveries.
WE are revisiting that subject now and perhaps the WORLD should be made aware of certain things afterall. Perhaps "some heads should roll".
The QUEEN does not want any programs paid and has instructed HIGGINS to stall, delay, sabotage, block, stop.
SHE DOES NOT WANT THE United States TO RETURN TO ITS ORIGINAL CONSTITUTION and to regain its independence from her. This is and ongoing problem and the primary motivation for her sabotage through HIGGINS in cooperation with THE OCTOPUS which is represented by BUSH/CLINTON/OBAMA.
COUNTRIES, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THE LIES YOU AND WE HAVE BEEN FED SINCE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON?
Get off your butts and demand answers.
Its time to stop running your mouths and take ACTION.
The Courts FAX Machines, telephones and e-mails have been overloaded all day today. Perhaps you (the Court) would like to have a call and a FAX and an e-mail from every program participant in the WORLD. Would you like that to happen?
If you think you can stop this REFUNDING OF THE WORLD you are sadly mistaken.
OBVIOUSLY the expected start of THE OFFICIAL NOTIFICATION process scheduled for 9 a.m. this morning has been delayed or stopped and the hour by hour put-offs were lies. WE now await further news and will update again when possible.
casper 5-14-09 #2
p.s. Additional confirmations just arriving says HIGGINS acting on behalf of the QUEEN is the current problem. Several of the other Judges are afraid of her and the QUEEN. Other Judges want the programs paid immediately.
ATTN COUNTRIES, this is THE WORLD COURT. This is YOUR COURT. THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY FOR OVERCOMING HIGGINS FALLS TO YOU. GET BUSY, DO WHAT YOU MUST DO.
casper 5-14-09 #3
TO THE MEMBERS OF THE WORLD COURT
WE know you are hard working people.
WE know your salaries are not that high.
WE have been doing some investigating in GERMANY, SWITZERLAND and LICHTENSTEIN.
Considering what WE have uncovered you folks must have one hell of a retirement plan at the World Court.
WE are not finished yet but so far WE have found one account belonging to the CHIEF of your tribe containing more than ONE TRILLION DOLLARS.
WE have also found accounts belonging to the Chiefs INDIANS containing amounts well into the BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
WE are curious to know how you accumulated these vast sums from your meager salaries?
OUR investigations are ongoing and not yet completed. When finished WE will attach names and amounts to every account.
WE can ALWAYS find financial types willing to "Work For The People" some of the time. They are working for us even now.
WE expect to have further news for you soon.
casper 5-14-09 #3
Every week brings a new example of the destruction of Capitalism by the Obama Administration.
Either the American people don't understand or don't object to this massive lightening quick change taking place.
It's one thing to want to rein in the greedy bas___ds on Wall Street, another to destroy the goose that laid the golden egg of 200 years of American prosperity. Socialism, Communism, Fascism, whatever it is,... it is the end of Freedom and the beginning of domination by Government.
All remains extraordinarily vague since the failure to deliver this past weekend.
WE are aware of additional domestic money center bank problems which caused deposits there to be moved still again due to never ending bank corruption.
WE are also aware of ongoing OBAMA interference which we have reason to believe has been overcome.
WE hear the loss of profits from trading some our funds as previously reported coupled with the loss of "some" of the Programs deposits may very well cause the demise of the largest domestic banks.
They were given every opportunity to "go straight" and blew it.
Good guys get ready, bad guys sabotage.
There is nothing new here just another "normal" delay.
Action --- Reaction.
This job belongs to the controllers of the NEW and you and we must perform our normal duties of watching, waiting and being frustrated.
WE are confident things are being handled promptly by those who have arrived for the purpose and WE view this as an ounce of prevention being worth a pound of cure.
And now for the reply to the David West post on Fourwinds and RMN.
WE don't normally reply publicly to inquiries such as yours Mr. West. The reason is that it is "off subject" for us.
WE write for program participants who have little interest in peripheral subjects and those who do can "read all about it" on the net.
Our "deal" is the programs and WE try to leave the status of things in the Far East to Fulford, the court corruption to Hennigan, Webb and Skolnik before be passed and geo-political analysis to Story with two exceptions, that being the subject of the QUEEN and COTTRELL'S proposals for private trading as opposed to Government trading.
WE believe that any continuation of the overnight FRAUDULENT GENERATION of massive amounts of "out of thin air money" can only result in a continuation of the existing utterly corrupt dual world finance system of fortunes for the privileged class and debt slavery for the regular normal people.
Regarding his admirable defense of his QUEEN, as WE have said many times, WE think WE know more about her than he does even if he should be in her employ, a proposition WE can't say yea or nay about.
For many years WE had eyes and ears on her ladyship almost full time. "WE" met her on the tarmac when she landed, WE were with her in meetings worldwide, WE were talking to her on her bedside telephone for years before this aspect of "WE" passed on.
WE have watched as she flipped and flopped so often our necks hurt.
Look to the Fourwinds archives where you will find dozens of updates featuring the QUEEN.
OUR point here is not the QUEEN or Story or anyone else but rather that as a general rule we don't mess in someone else's playpen. Not yours, not theirs, with a few exceptions as described above when our knowledge is so extensive it just can't remain silent. OURS is a narrow focus.
WE have a working knowledge of your subject and dozens of others but WE don't write about them because WE don't feel qualified to do so.
WE expect others to carry their ball toward the goal line while WE do the same with ours.
I don't remember mentioning the $21T publicly Mr. West, but if you say so. Actually this is a relatively small number compared to some of the conversations WE encounter. It is as if those "in the know" in International Finance have a "secret pact to add three zeros" to any number being discussed publicly. Discussions of hundreds of T's in this deal or that is daily fare with occasional mentions of Quads.
Let us also clarify quickly that WE never said WE know 90% of everything. What WE said was that 90% of the "grapevine Intel" is ABC generated.
WE are not even sure we know ninety percent of our own business much less someone else's.
WE do take heart with comments sent to us from very important places around the world confirming, after the fact, that Intel provided our "family" in our updates was "right on" or "perfect" or "nail on the head" or, believe it or not, "CASPER and his group are the only ones we pay attention to over here".
WE take pride in our work and WE care about our reputation but we don't really know how much we know or how much we don't know.
WE do sometimes know falsehoods when we see them and we are not bashful about pointing them out.
You asked about the Freedom Program and its possible relationship to the Soviet Treasury and the related Arbitrage Programs beginning in 1989. WE know of no relationship to the Freedom Program whatsoever.
FREEDOM was the last of the "publicly available programs" and is usually mentioned in the same breath as "O" and "F.C." and others.
It is different in many ways.
It is a small program by comparison and as "last on the scene" obtained its "go first" position due to the shenanigans of BUSH.
By obtaining World Court Orders that it go first they (the bad guys) could delay distribution of all programs by delaying this one program. For the past year a debate has raged as to whether this requirement was subsequently changed and perhaps Freedom did not have to go first afterall.
To my dismay WE have been involved in this debate from the beginning maintaining that nothing has changed, Freedom must come first. Most others, over time, joined our opponents in this debate. Only recently have some very important players switched back to our point of view. This "go first" proposition is the reason why WE have tracked those packages so closely. For the longest time the Freedom Funds were warehoused in Switzerland, more recently they have been "locked down" in Germany.
"OUR" Freedom program does not include, in its data base, the names of Senators or Congressmen or World Leaders as so many think.
Nor does it date to the time period you mention.
Also unique to Freedom is the fact that each of their participants have individual contracts for their funding, the other programs do not.
Perhaps you are confusing "our" Freedom, with the FREEDOM CORPORATION set up by KISSINGER in PARIS.
For a while KISSINGER claimed ownership of our program. Then, in testimony at the World Court he denied same.
Still later he again tried to claim ownership. He established a program under that Corporate umbrella by the name of AMERICORP. WE know nothing more about FREEDOM CORPORATION or AMERICORP and suggest you look to the public records there if you have further interest.
Freedom is an example of "not from the same pot".
You are apparently "tapped into" and attempting to trace one particular corrupt transaction. Consider the larger picture, the Brady Bonds for example which cost so many lives at Cantor Fitzgerald (WTC), the theft of the Countries Gold stored in the U.S., the VKD related counterfeit Gold Certificates and Bonds disbursed worldwide, the many enormous Ponzi Schemes, the Wanta Situation, the theft and embezzlement of Program Funds, the theft of the accounts of the Global Debt Facility (Whistleblower), the theft of the Indian Royalty Accounts, the multitude of Banking Scams involving Goldman Sachs, CITI, B of A, Wells Fargo and J.P./Chase, The Morgenthau Bonds, the Marshall Plan Funds, the Holocaust Funds, the Katrina Funds, the Mormon Church Muletrain, the BUSH Senior/ OBAMA/Hillary Clinton/RED CHINA and Chinese Crime Family Scams, and on and on and on it goes with your subject being lost in a tsunami of American Government/U.S. Corporation/Fed Res/ Treasury/Wall Street/the City/CIA/ corruption where Blackmail, Bribery, Murder, Assassination, Extortion, Embezzlement and Execution are common place.
The burglar does not take the VCR and leave the TO.V., he does not take the T.V. and leave the jewelry.
Your subject is one part of a U.S. Government/Illuminati Crime Spree which is so big and gone on so long there is no hope of measuring the magnitude of it or judging the consequences of unwinding it if there be, anywhere on the planet, a desire to unwind it.
By the way, is your fictitious Lewis Ellingford, aka LE and abbreviation for a different but similar name?
As diverse and unrelated as all these worldwide corrupt activities might appear to be they have as a common denominator the Corporation of the United States and the Illuminati Central Fractional Banking System.
Its a big boys game Mr. West.
WE are relegated to observation, prayer and perhaps causing a few "dust-ups" here and there.
WE fight the Grizzly Swamp Creature with fly swatters and the Internet.
Those who get to close get their fly swatters broken but WE fight on Mr. West and trust that you will too.
WE do not question your analysis of your subject or Whistleblowers response which seems to disagree as this is not "OUR" playpen.
As a favor to you, WE asked some VIP's about your post, the response was that some of your Intel is correct and some is not. Neither WE or they had any desire to take it further.
WE liked your observation that "OBAMA is caught between the Pyramid and the Capstone".
WE suggest you include a chapter in your book regarding the immeasurable suffering of the program participants due to the corruption of their own Government.
Just as our Republican form of Government was subverted by an imposed "democracy" which was then exported to the world as an example of how America became successful, a bold faced lie, so too have the UP.S. fraudulent financial dealings been exported to other countries who were taught by the U.S. to use their Countries natural resources and assets as collateral for the corrupt overnight generation of money out of thin air trades.
Your particular example of 20 year PBG's is just a longer term example. Birds of a feather. Finding Foreign Politicians willing to join The Billionaire Boys Club is no more difficult that finding them in the U.S. Congress.
You say you expect this to end very badly.
For them yes.
For us no, WE don't agree.
They have set the world on fire with their fraudulent finance and their answer is to add gasoline (debt).
It won't work.
It can not work.
Only their control of the printing presses are buying them time. Their whole stinking filthy corrupt financial world will come down.
In its place a new paradigm, a return to the Constitution and exposure of the EVIL nature of the CORPORATION in Washington D.C..