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#1 2008-09-26 22:45:16

Quercus
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From: United Kingdom
Registered: 2005-07-17
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Just a test post, albeit a very apt one.

The Banking System
The United States’ banking history is filled with deception, fraud, larceny and treason. To understand the problem of how modern, deceptive banking policy adversely affects every American citizen and is, indeed, antithetical to their great Republic, we must begin with an examination of the historical evolution of the privately owned central banking system. A cursory exploration of this system reveals that from its very inception it, by design, undermines political will and insures a lifetime of feudal-like, debt-based enslavement

Quotable quotes:
1. "History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance."
James Madison

2. "The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest."
Abraham Lincoln

3. "You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God, I will rout you out." (Speaking to the banking system)
Andrew Jackson

4. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
Thomas Jefferson

The banking system in the United Kingdom pre-dates that of the United States and was instrumental in setting it up. It comes as no surprise, therefore, to learn that this is where it all began. The Bank of England and its cohorts are every bit as deceitful now as they were in the beginning. The system was established to achieve precisely what it has achieved.

They should have listened! Now, it is time for change! And change beyond all recognition is coming very soon!


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#2 2008-09-27 04:40:03

genniii
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From: Pacific Northwest
Registered: 2005-11-29
Posts: 1515

Re: Just a test post, albeit a very apt one.

A test? A test? A Test?
Can I play?
How about Attest? Can I play that?

How about
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

Ah !
You know what I would like to test?
Answer: A fair price for a fair product!
You know a business could get rich by using the resources of the planet to bring forth some inventiveness and industry to make life more pleasurable for humans.
And of course a well run business should be able to turn a profit!

What I would like to test
If were King Of The World
would be to have Every Business in the World Pay a two percent tax  ~*out of their Income*~  Before profit, before business expenses, before any other 'deductions'
Two Percent Of Income given to every other person living on the planet that the business man gets it's resources from

That two percent can pay for all the roads and bridges, feed and house all the widows and orphans assist anyone experiencing an emergency, pay for teachers and schools to insure that the free education available to everyone is absolute top notch, and take care of the sick and elderly.

And That is it!
No other Taxes or fees or surcharges or hidden costs or add ons or other political shenanigans
along with abolishing all taxes except the two percent business tax I would also make usury extinct AND ILLEGAL
Interest shall go back to being a form of usury - no more of that crap about only the interest on interest on interest being called  usury and interest and interest on interest being considered the way of  being called Business Procedure
if anyone borrows money there will be one flat fee charged determined by the borrower and lender and two percent business tax ON THE FEE EARNED can be paid by the lender.

AND ALL BOOKKEEPING of BUSINESS and BANKING shall be as it is being recorded and forever afterward OPEN TO THE PUBLIC EYE without hindrance.


Our Nations shall become Rich and abundantly industrious.
Our infrastructure shall make the Earth a Paradise.
There would be no wars if  no one was allowed to take someone else's wealth

And if a man or a woman could spend on his her own home and community that which they earn by the efforts of selling time to businesses
The very Land itself would bloom.

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AAAhhhhhhhhhh That feels Good
.................. I like this game!

Last edited by genniii (2008-09-27 04:43:42)


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#3 2008-09-27 19:14:15

Christo Alado
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Registered: 2005-08-18
Posts: 2131

Re: Just a test post, albeit a very apt one.

Hi genniii, I'd like to interject some thoughts by way of questions with comments. I have some concerns with what you have proposed above and would like to know...

In another thread, you'd had given definitions for constitutional republic stating that:

Constitution
Clearly written Rules Of Law applicable to all

Republic
Equal protection of Law to Everyone

If this is true, why then tax only businesses? The tax laws you have proposed are unequal in that only those hearty ones who have what it takes to run a business will be taxed. Seems unfair. The taxing of their gross income would be a great burden in that you'd also be forever taxing their 'operating capital' of which they need to reinvest to continue doing business. The rate of attrition due to the tax will eventually drive them out of business.

The cost of things would go up by at least the two percent decided upon--as any business man would figure their total costs and then simply add the 2% right on the top of it all. So, in effect, the consumer will be paying the tax and thus would not be getting the best, fairest deal possible. What would happen if it was decided that a 2% tax wasn't enough and a 4% or even 6% tax seemed to be more to the liking? How would one explain the doubling or tripling of their taxes? If a 6% tax was the starting point and a surplus came in to being, who decides what should be done with the surplus?

What to do about those who oppose any kind of tax and yet they still wish to do business? Do you bar them from doing business? Business people find that keeping accurate records of their expenses is time consuming and bothersome, to say the least. What happens when something doesn't seem right with their bookkeeping? Are they to be punished, fined or other? What kind of system of laws are to be implemented and what would be the cost to enforce such laws?

The proposal also seems to indicate the continuance of the 'welfare state' in that the plan calls for the forced taking from those who have and which is then given to those who do not. We've seen that the 'have nots' will have no incentive to ever do much because someone else will pay their way.

It does seem fair that, since the earth's resources do belong to everyone, that such should only have a value placed upon it that is in direct proportion to the labor costs of mining, growing and etc.. So instead of charging for the actual fixed value of a thing, only the labor cost of that thing are charged.

In an autocratic society, it would be to each their own. To each community, their own... as in; when if roads needed repair, the community would raise the funds needed, by donation only, to get the job done. (Business people usually do make the largest donations in money and their personal time. A tax will typically void any project of the latter... something about having to do the book keeping.)

I'm looking toward the future where the need of roads and bridges are a thing of the past. For the cost of one bridge and ten miles of road, 1,000 hover-cars could be produced. Communities will typically take care of their poor and down-trodden of their own free will.

To make things new, one must let go of the old.


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