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real news is so hard to find these days, eh?...hmm

Well Organic, it ain't on the tele, thats for sure..hehe

Lofty

organic wrote:

Sounds like a freakin' soap opera...as does most everything posted from Fourwinds...LOL

Exactly! Funny how Mr. Bellringer has no problem with that information, which most likely is utter BS anyway, but he didn't wait long to declare that October 14 thing as rubbish, cuz it wasn't mentioned in his Bible(the Phoenix Journals).

Unlike Mr. Bellringer, those channelers that game out, or confirmed the October 14 sighting, have written books, do workshops and emotional clearings so that people would be better prepared for what's coming. In others words they HELP people, unlike Bellringer, who only sits behind his computer and talks down to people.
Man, i still can't get over some of his writings i used to read a few years ago. One that i remember clearly was that Earth is not actually even in the Solar System anymore, but is being towed to it's new Solar System in the Pleiades System. And all the stars constellations, etc. that we used to see are actually space ships in formation to make it look like they are star constellations....

Oh, and that Iraqi War was not actually happening.......well it was happening, but he said that there were no civilian casualties, cuz all the people were protected by the divine and the whole area under it's protection, or something like that, and that what we see on our TV screens were actually footage taken from the first Gulf War ... I kid you NOT, people. After reading all that i had had it with that guy and his website.
Oh man, how can anyone take that dude seriously anymore is beyond me., but i know there are a lot of people defending him against people like me who think he's either a fraud and a liar, or just a bit insane.

Hey, does anyone here know if Candace and her Christ Michael have said anything about that October 14 thing? Does anyone here still even read her stuff?

Last edited by Ra Denora Em (2008-09-06 22:23:22)

Ra Denora Em; "Hey, does anyone here know if Candace and her Christ Michael have said anything about that October 14 thing? Does anyone here still even read her stuff?":

..... through Candace, 24th October, 2006/Christ Michael:

Not really, but yes about October 17:[  http://secondcoming.insights2.org/Sananda610.html  ]

All right, time to return to the original topic here, the game plan. We stay the course, with the exception that many dark are going to be leaving the planet, very rapidly now. Some will be taken; others will pass because of the vibrations. I had hoped the dark would pick up on the event of October 17, but this did not happen.

A quick note about October 17. Beloveds, October 17, was the day that you were awaiting in 2012. The calendars are off, for a variety reasons. When the Maya wrote that calendar, it was based on the known cycles of that time, and time has changed. One of the first things to do, regards time, is to change your calendars, because Earth now has a 360 day year. This is why your seasons are coming early, in addition to the changing of the tilt.

As you see in this, the date supposed for 2012 is but a date. It is not Ascension Day. Ascension occurs not on a date, but rather when the planet makes that step. Ascension day is when the Earth moves into mono-polarity, Light and Life. There is not a predictive date of this. When GAIA and her inhabitants make the desirable changes, and move into unity consciousness, Earth will ascend. That remains the goal. We are not doing a lift off, so that that goal will be attained. To do a lift off and reseed the planet would delay that goal.

Do people here really have the evidence that Nesara is a total lie and disinfo sham?
I am so curious.
Because this hasn't materialised as yet, is this why everyone dismisses it? It seems like Lavars messages, is it just impatience?
I know the sites that report have some "iffy" threads and the site owners have "fixed" views, but for me they are only a place to gather information, pertinent to the subject (Truth sites).

So that I can balance this in my own mind, can someone offer REAL EVIDENCE?
And yes I do know about the early Nesara and the "Dove" and I also know about the immediate counter Nesara site put up by the CIA to confuse.

Thoughts.
Why is every respected channeller citing Nesara?
Why is Nesara also mentioned as part of and also one of the triggers prior to "first contact"?
Why has Christopher Story now written over 2 million words in his reports on the subject? The results of which have definitely shaped events within America, following these reports.
Would anyone go to these lengths of reporting for disinfo? The answer is NO,it would be done in a psychological way and in snippets rather than lengthy reports.
Why does the Story reports tie in perfectly with current news events. i.e Russia, Georgia, Putin, Payments etc, but are reported before the events happen, in some cases?
Why do Story and Casper constantly exchange coded words in their messages?
There are white knights at work and they are in contact with both Story and Casper IMO.

More thoughts
Why hasn't martial law been declared, everything is in place, the FEMA camps, the rail wagons, the homeland security?
Why hasn't Bush invaded Iran, full fleet in the sea off Iran? Why are there reports of the military refusing to obey Bush's orders?

I am open to any EVIDENCE, please, point me to some links, because at the moment I am a believer
There is too much synchronicity, too much work by Chris Story, too much interrelation.
I want the "announcements".

Now if this comes to pass for real, then how many dismissers of Nesara, will clam right up and join the queue for payments?

Answer, I think is everyone on here. I will be very impressed if someone publicly states they refuse to take it

Bear in mind, you can manifest whatever you wish.

Lofty

NESARA is a concept a theory which IF set to practice will solve only the financial slavery of this world. However, the most disturbing thing about NESARA is that it is more important, more sacred, more precious than LIFE ITSELF!

You want to see an announcement of NESARA? Just look at all the many hundreds of web sites and blogs which covers this subject... it has already been announced, repeatedly. But for the twisted sake of slaughtering untold millions of people, NESARA will never be IMPLIMENTED! Money means more than life... must put and end to as much life as possible before NESARA can come to fruition.

Just a note: if I were a disinformation agent, getting paid by the hour or word, I'd have written well over two million words by now, for sure. In my opinion, Casper and Story exchange 'codes' so that they can be seen as seemingly 'on the same page' when they trick the gullible public into believing their lies and half truths. They get everyones hopes up high... and yet, what ever becomes of their stories? The answer is 'nothing.' They keep you wanting, with a deep desire but the reality is they are just pushing air that others are willing to breathe, regardless of how toxic their air is.

Last edited by Christo Alado (2008-09-08 20:46:07)

IT WAS NESARA who said that Al Gore would be becoming (the temporally) President of the USA; how realistic is this now? – isn’t that now or even within this month the deadline is reached and for candidate Presidency; it’s already, for this, to late, isn’t it?

Anyone on this FORUM can tell me and HOW realistic it is that Al Gore will be becoming (the temporally) President of the USA, and right NOW in this coming November 2008!!!!!

Any way WE SHOULD HAVE A POINT THAN: To me, when Al Gore will become president of course this would be very ideal and yet unbelievable like almost as if GOD will become president of USA, yet for NESARA the better and if this is so; than they are more 'believable' than they are right now and on this moment.

So HOW REALISTIC IT IS AND that Al Gore would be becoming (the temporally) President of the USA????

How sees the people on this forum this????

I had heard about and then jumped on the NESARA bandwagon some three years ago. What I had liked more than anything else about NESARA is its declaration of the return of Constitutional Law. (the money would be nice) But as I had watched the so called 'players' in the NESARA game it became clear to me that something was amiss, for example:

The only way NESARA is to be publicly announced is when all the 'bank documents' are delivered. Common sense tells me to announce NESARA first and then deliver the documents... which would then bring it all under public pressure and scrutiny.

NESARA intends to flood this nation with obscene wealth to its many citizens who have trouble managing what little bit of excess money they may have chanced upon. I could see the balance of wealth quickly going back to the bankers, sharks and in short, the dishonest... which would start the whole mess that NESARA was intended to solve, all over once again. No one was able to give an adequate solution for that plausible scenario.

So, the end result of NESARA in theory could be rather good but it seems that the reality of it could be just as devastating as the current situation we all face. Here in California, we have a state lottery and there are too many examples of what happens when ordinary people are faced with large sums of money, who have no idea how this world works with all of it greed still in full force.

How can anyone hold on to their money when there are others out there that aim to cheat and/or steal every cent they can? One might think that since everyone is basically rich that very few will be looking to get richer... but greed knows no bounds. The greedy don't want millions or billions or even trillions, they want it all. How to overcome that? Constitutional Law was meant to combat the ill effects of bankers and the like but, as you can see, the US Constitution was easily circumvented with a little subversive tactics here and there, over several decades.

Yes, October fourteenth would be nice because only something like a Galactic force could curb their greed in any meaningful manner.

Last edited by Christo Alado (2008-09-09 17:17:04)

Christo Alado wrote:

I had heard about and then jumped on the NESARA bandwagon some three years ago. What I had liked more than anything else about NESARA is its declaration of the return of Constitutional Law. (the money would be nice) But as I had watched the so called 'players' in the NESARA game it became clear to me that something was amiss, for example:

The only way NESARA is to be publicly announced is when all the 'bank documents' are delivered. Common sense tells me to announce NESARA first and then deliver the documents... which would then bring it all under public pressure and scrutiny.

NESARA intends to flood this nation with obscene wealth to its many citizens who have trouble managing what little bit of excess money they may have chanced upon. I could see the balance of wealth quickly going back to the bankers, sharks and in short, the dishonest... which would start the whole mess that NESARA was intended to solve, all over once again. No one was able to give an adequate solution for that plausible scenario.

So, the end result of NESARA in theory could be rather good but it seems that the reality of it could be just as devastating as the current situation we all face. Here in California, we have a state lottery and there are too many examples of what happens when ordinary people are faced with large sums of money, who have no idea how this world works with all of it greed still in full force.

How can anyone hold on to their money when there are others out there that aim to cheat and/or steal every cent they can? One might think that since everyone is basically rich that very few will be looking to get richer... but greed knows no bounds. The greedy don't want millions or billions or even trillions, they want it all. How to overcome that? Constitutional Law was meant to combat the ill effects of bankers and the like but, as you can see, the US Constitution was easily circumvented with a little subversive tactics here and there, over several decades.

Yes, October fourteenth would be nice because only something like a Galactic force could curb their greed in any meaningful manner.

Chirsto,I agree, announce will be before before deliver

Aries,
As I see it once every single person on this planet has equal abundance, then we shall all sit down in realisation that the whole money "thing" is a complete enslavement and that enslavement has forthwith ENDED.
I also see that it is the ONLY way in which the cabal can retain control of you and everyone else. Once this money is given, then the cabal grip has gone, they become powerless.
Sweet in its delivery and yes you are right, no one will want to do anything and in fact need to do anything, other than work TOGETHER in harmony and cooperation.
So in essence everyone on this planet sits and reflects on what its all really about and will come together as a unified race.
The concept of greed still raging will mean nothing, because the money is actually worthless, but its worthless worldwide

Now couple this with first contact, and the thought provoking reality of our actual history and not our fabricated, controlled mind control of the past and we have a very rapidly changing planet.

Lofty:)

Last edited by Lofty (2008-09-10 08:44:51)

No one asked Maitreya and if NESARA will become a reality to this Earth; in the meanwhile.....  what do you think and like 'Christo Alado' pointed before, that this NESARA should make any sence and with all this human(?)_beast greediness, all over the world????

Also does anyone knows that Sananda isn't the (ex)Jesus Christ?

What do you think, if Sananda is really the (ex)Jesus Christ, that NESARA won't come out, sooner or later - and while Sananda manytimes made reference to NESARA?
While also for sure Maitreya is co-operating in several ways with Jesus, and if Jesus is Sananda-this days- than the Worldteacher is co-operating with Sananda directly and in the Here and Now.

The only alternative is that Sananda is fals and than for sure that Sananda must be Satan: in that case, I personaly still doubt this, but than also NESARA is for sure Satans game to mislead Humanity; and bringing mankind, by this, to a global-selfdestruction

So if NESARA is still true: NO way yet, than and that Only with a teleporter(scotty, beam me up) and like the Maitreya is(And ALSO with SPECIALLY his TEACHINGS of Sharing and Rightesness; 'The teachinngs of the 5e Buddha') that NESARA has any meaning and as they say now soon(as his org. said: Share.int.) Maitreya must REVEALING himself in front of the world(by International TV).

Than is this the only CASE, and just when The Worldteacher comes out to the WORLD in GENERAL and that about when 'on the same time as NESARA will be announced' and that this than only will make sence and for a more this ' Rightesness '-busness and this FOR THE WORLD IN A TOTAL WAY and like this NESARA(starting from USA/Canada etc.) is, or suppost to be.

That for all, for just becoming such a blessing for mankind and evolution.

Last edited by Jaya (2008-09-10 18:42:54)