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Lofty wrote:

"As you know, these bank documents must be
delivered before there is the resignations of your presidency
that will be announced."

Why?????? I/we are not interested in money, it is without doubt "the root of all the evil" on this planet at present.

So you have to ask why are the resignations dependent upon bank documents.

Burn the bloody money for all I care.

Just get rid of these Genocidal maniacs once and for all PLEASE

MAKE IT SO

Lofty

I concur.

Sotapanno wrote:

Money IS NOT the root of all evil. That is a myth in my mind.

Money is merely an exchange medium.

It is the few people who control the making, distribution, and flow of money, and in the process control who receives how much within that flow.

The very purpose of NESARA as I see it, is to break the cycle of control of these monies, by dumping huge amounts of it onto the world, along with alleged debt-forgiveness.  When money then no longer is an issue for the 'common man' - that is, it is in control of 'we the people' - the entire 'evilness' people associate with money disappears.  The true evil being the people who currently have the control, and will lose it with NESARA.

In other words, when everyone becomes abundant, the threat of money-control (not getting it, or threat of loosing it) vanishes.

or ask your self this: how can a piece of paper be evil? People conduct evil activities. Money just is.

Sotapanno

But, Sot, IMO its been the prime driver (at a cost above all human life and dignity) for the dark ones, so in that respect I see it as evil. They have stolen every single dollar, pound they could lay their hands on. Whenever anyone has come against them, they have bought them off with very large payouts. It is now becoming evident they have now bought so many people off that nearly the whole of congress and most of the senate are in the grasp of them. To accept the bribe is to become part of the evil.
To require the amounts that they supposedly have is beyond any comprehension, above the needs of fellow man.

It's inextricably linked.


Lofty

Last edited by Lofty (2008-06-08 06:27:37)

Lofty wrote:

"As you know, these bank documents must be
delivered before there is the resignations of your presidency
that will be announced."

They better hurry up, because Bush will be out by January 20, 2009.

Christo Alado wrote:

Sotapanno wrote:

Christo Alado wrote:

money ... do we really need it?

If we had a society where all was abundant ... money indeed would be useless.
Sotapanno

I absolutely reject it and all it stands for

Guns dont kill people, People kill people

This is 2008
silly numbers in the light of the possibility that perhaps we all have been incarnating and reincarnating on this planet for ten and a half million years
and possibly ten and a half million other planets before this one

and how many times is it possible that we may have spent countless times doing ten and a half million times ten and a half million times cycles doing the same thing over and over and over and never changing cause we were content and more focused on being content?

The Greeks and Egyptians invented barter and coinage
and the root of all evil was born
and profit making reared it's ugly head
Corporatocracy and Government became bed partner pseudo religions along with the old concepts of God influencing Life on this planet

and now we have an internet
(of course we also still have those who "dont do computer" deeming it just another 'Evil")

But we all know absolutely now
that way off on any 'other side' of the world:
People are just People -
living to raise and feed children, and grasping moments to party or sit and have a liquid while watching the sun set on another day


But money did indeed serve vital facilitation in getting us to a point where we are jaded about Nesara Downline Potentials

My opinion?  ... I think money is a concept of our minds that can be usefully evolved to usefully evolve mankind and his view of the world reality we live in and how we interact with each other.


Man Has Always Lived In The Father/Mother's Kingdom
.......................................                  Yet Perceives It Not


it is the perception of a thing that changes situations, not the thing itself that changes situations

I do believe we are going to enter (slowly) a growing and growing abundance
I dont think we are yet fully pruned back such that our growth will produce fruit instead of just more of the same ole same ole

But I think the abundance the real opulent abundance and wealths of our reality are already being comprehended and appreciated .... thus the seeds are already sprouting even as the old crop is still dieing

But as Governments and corporations and more importantly religions do their changes into whatever is to be
money itself has to lose it's evilness
The Bird of the air, the Lily of the field, Aye even the sun in it's rising must be allowed to not be evil for not being in Lack

Mankind must join Nature, not drag reality down to Humanity's Limitations.

Money can become based on gold silver and whatever precious metals
Man must be able to walk around and musically jingle gold coins in the pocket as High Style rather than live in fear of being robbed.

When wealth and abundance is understood as natural for those who do for each other rather than just for those who tyrannize and take advantage of suckers for profit - when a fair product for a fair price becomes a cultural commonplace amongst brothers and sisters in the flesh than perhaps we will actually begin doing for each other rather than doing for the coin

We may have a way to go to get to that point
But hey it took years and years and years to get From Newtons Apple and Galileo Galilei's cosmos to the telephone
but from there it was just a short hop to the iPhone

we might make it in our lives yet
but we have to go through the steps
other wise how will we know how to walk the talk?

Well, lets see... I have a collection of money from all around the world. I'm actually fascinated by the stuff and the simplicity it embodies in the kind regards of a convenient mode with which to trade.

Oooo, shiny coins and colorful notes, me play with money, me like money... then comes all those who perverted it, bastardized it until whatever value it had, as was intend, became nought but a thing that they will possess, and any value which I or others desire of it is shrunk to little of nothing. If it were possible to remove the greed and ignorance of/for money from the minds of humanity, then money shall always be a thing which facilitates trade. But, the greed and ignorance are in full force and money is just an object to be collected, horded by some until the others have little or none.

What good is money? What good is life? Which of the two is preferable? It seems that people will choose money over life, will actually destroy life for the sake of money. So be it?

Last edited by Christo Alado (2008-06-09 17:18:43)

LAVAR/Helena: 'which are supposed to have been
delivered yesterday'_on 06/10/08

and than on_06/12/08_'that will soon come to pass with the final deliveries of the bank
documents'.

..sounds all that cotradictional, that your are going to think 'Is this all anti-/false_Christ-stuff?'.

For 'them';

.... But what for meaning has it for humanity in general?;

….. than only the meaning of - that while humanity is already on the wrong way - that now they are even become more hopeless than before; the 'one's(Aliens, human co-workers and the Masters as like one of then "Jesus-Sananda") who are supposed to get us on a right track, to help us and to safe us from our natural_ and cosmic DISASTERS, to bring/and to guide us into a PEACEFULL world and without any wars, they are still, at least not correct_ also they seems to manipulate - once a while - and looking now very stupid en ridicules by falsing predicting and almost every week(More than once and in the past they wrote on this FORUM; "This week the event[of the releasing the NESARA_funds etc.] that this will happen etc.") that the great change will happen now!
Serious workers of the Omni Survival Humanity Operation_OSHO have to take care of these 'evolution, creation-lines' by there LIGHT and will invest totally all there live, there spirit and money materials into such a future for Mankind and Planet; they will be in a disaster and when this is not the nearby-future, but just a speculation and just hypotheses, based on predictions which doesn't seems to become true and which sucks only your spirit and money(your body and DNA)_ both, while your total life and which you are supposed to surrender for the only truth and which you can call 'The Maha-Vishnu_I.D., and which is the only Right way', instead that your total service is now more going direction Satan and when all the 'Starship Capricorn/LAVAR/Helena sayings seems to be only on in a wrong time-scale dimension of evolution and when this sayings, all the time, are not according to the reality –
…..  are these 'entities' just out of reality?; or do they want to create purposely confusion and mental disasters - so that humanity will have to destroy them self's out of hopelessness? The so called 'good' things the are claiming to do - and in the mean-time - as like neutralising Tornado's, Forest fires etc. etc.. are NOTHING in comparing with  giving humanity the RIGHT SCIENCE - and this FOR EVER and by being CORRECT in predictions for sake of the RICHTESNESS, as like, to come to sharing of the treasures of this Earth, this by the/a restore of the economical WORLD_balance, so that the mega stinking sickness/illness of society/the world will get healed and by the dissolving of the polarisation of the Ugly TRUTH - that the total world/planet destruction has it ROOTS in the horrible phenomena that the RICH is becoming richer ALL THE TIME, while the Poor is becoming POORER all the time; which is the source of hypocrisy, crimes and wars.
By being speculative and like LAVAR/Helena do and NOW in this way - harms our only HOPE - the The REVEALEMENT of the Spiritual Hierarchy to The World;
which now only seems to be become more and more 'unconvinced' to the public and media –
…..  by the time that really something is going to be happen…  as like 'A Great Economical World Transformation', nobody than will be interested anymore and we have been than already decided for our global-suicide.
Thing must be true, otherwise is better to shut your mouth/writings; if things are not true- or if you don't know for sure – than you better will stop and that you will go over into
' Silence in all languish ' rather than ’ speaking/speculating/lying in all languishes ’.

Great deal  'organic' -

For one week I will not read these hypotheses of LAVAR -  in the meantime I will be  'like God' and going to Maha-Vishnu, asking Maha - Vishnu if these LAVAR-sayings are just speculations or if LAVAR/Helena sayings are just somewhat ahead there times, as well - and when I'm successful in reaching RadhKrishna_Maha Vishnu?
[I' m also involved in A MEGA_GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION-Court Case against a Maitreya-project of 64 mln. euro - so these powers of 'burocracy' - can be in opposition of my intension to leave this planet and for sake to reach Vishnu-Loca - So when I can become ONE with Maha-Vishnu on Vishnu-Loca, I will also ask the Supreme Being if he can confirm and whether the Vishnu's are the DNA-creators of existence_as like. if they have been Cloning the first Elohim? - who on there turn are claiming - that they and by there Genetic Engineering are the creators(for the main part) of humanity?- ; as well, if they also have been(partly – besides they have been cloning the Elohim)Cloning humanity?].

So when I’m successful in finding out and - and not bothering the Maitreya-Court Case, I than will humanity(And by Maitreya) let know this and if this/my hypotheses now becoming ‘The Absolute Truth’ and that this will be a New Science for Humanity !

So this, for me, will be the week of actions - any way.