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You people actualy think a simple annoucement will make the current governments of the top leading countrys in the world will just change instantly? Making them even let go of their army and bombs?

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Orelinde wrote:

Lavar:  I have received information that several of those in charge of the announcement of the NESARA program have been killed.  Do you know if that is true?  Do you have any way of helping to get the NESARA program back on track?

It seems like when it's just about time NESARA is to be announced and the starships are going to land something happens!  Now this?  What's next?

And that's exactly how it's probably gonna go on and on. I mean, it's so easy. Even i could fool you guys by pretending to channel some light being like that. Whenever a date i have given approaches, i make up some excuse. And there are always people who think that maybe it's true, that maybe it indeed happened and Ra Denora Em is telling the truth, that why don't i wait a bit longer.
When Sananda, or whatever light being says that victory is at hand, rejoice people, then how can we really rejoice when we have had so many disappointments already. Who's to say there wont be another delay?
We have seen so many passed dates already. Gosh, ifeel so stupid already. It's like they are a bunch of children up there. Enough said.

myriad wrote:

PS: Aliens exist, but why the hell would they help us?

Perhaps because we are all one.

I did not say i didn't have hope, almost forgot to mention that before going to bed. I have hope the world will be a better place someday. But who is to say when that is?

Thank you again, ReikiMage, for your uplifting insight.  I'm saddened by all the negative comments I am reading here.  For a long time it seemed that this forum was a place where we could come and discuss things with open minds and not all this negativity.  NESARA is for real.  It is a huge, monumental task and it would make sense that the dark would not want us to have it.  Who knows what extremes they would go to?  I take everything I read with a grain of salt and judge none.  For I know that the Universe is literal.  What I send out - I will get back.  So I will continue to think positive and send out love & light knowing that I will receive it tenfold.  Blessings to all ~ ~

Those that were killed were not the anouncers, but 4 White Knight Warriors and 2 Star  people. Since this accident last week, the GF has taken over all aspects including the broadcast problems.


Love& Light

Harmen


Update on NESARA
by Candace Frieze, Christ Michael & Sananda Immanuel

AbundantHope2002@wmconnect.com

Hi everyone. There is a note on the Internet that showed up in many of your emails yesterday, and mine, talking of the difficulties with the NESARA announcement this week. There are details in it, describing a battle. There have been battles often, that we do not publicize, and this message is only being done, because of the note circulating around. Also, I have received many emails about the failure of the shuttle launching in Florida this past week. Sananda will comment on that briefly here.

Sananda: Dear ones, the Columbia was lost a couple years because we shot it down. There was the plan to drop a nuclear bomb, and this wasn't allowed to happen. The crew was evacuated first, and they are safe, and will be returned to Earth when appropriate after the NESARA announcement. There were never any body parts from crew spread on the ground. Although we do have control of the current shuttle and can determine its contents, we are taking no risks. On top of that the shuttle is old and not safe anyway, so why the risk to life to send it up again for any reasons?

You space program is a waste, designed to hide what is really going on. There are space stations around Earth of which you are not aware, and you have had space capable shuttle craft for some time now. Some of you are aware that the United States has a station on Mars, and these little rover things moving around are pretty silly. They are real however, so you can believe some of what your media talks about with them. I now let Christ Michael take over. Namaste, Sananda Immanuel.

My dear Friends, It is I Christ Michael. There has been a note circulating on the Internet about this week's difficulties with NESARA. Indeed the note is true. However, it was not authorized, and we are working on finding out its source at this time.

There continue to be moles, it seems a never ending issue. We commandeered CNN during the night Wednesday, and we had interference yet again. The access channel net work refused to function at all, and after a goodly period we gave up and reset the date for Friday, again during the night.

There ensued a fierce battle. The BBB&G’s were waiting with their plan, and lives were lost. We lost indeed as the message stated, four ground crew, and two star people. We have received some emails wondering where the protection was. My friends, the BBB&G’s have weapons too, and your government owns shuttle craft. There was a battle, plain and simple, and in this situation, the shielding that is normally done is not possible to maintain constantly.

The White Knights lost were experienced warriors, and knew what they were doing, as were the star people. Please have compassion, and thank them for what they gave to you in this process. There have been many deaths over the many years we have been back. There was major warring around the Earth and in the astral areas for a long time with Anunnaki and Anchara, and a few others.

This is life, sadly, but true. Much of this since long before the First Coming, has been fought with weapons. You have movies about the Galactic wars. This is the last planet involved in this long time mess in the Galaxy, and in the Universe of Nebadon. This is why you have the stories of the final battle between good and evil. This is the end of Armageddon, you are not expecting more Armageddon.

Armageddon is not about the projected 3rd world war on Earth, as commonly believed. Armageddon was to be and has been fought as war all around you in your skies, the astral worlds, and in the under ground facilities.

When we recently told you of taking over the underground areas, this was an act of war, there was not peaceful surrender. Some areas allowed the search, some did not. We did find a number of very bad weapons of off world variety during the search, and it was during the search that we decided to take them over, period.

We have not been beaten, I assure you, we have relieved the enemy of too much of it's power, not to win. As I write this, we continue on in battle, and we hope to lose no more, but it will go on. The enemy has little left with which to battle.

I will never understand why these people did not just give up, it is the end, and they have made their beds, and the grace of God is truly gone.

We have star technicians and a technology of which you are unaware that we will be using now with the TV problem. We have more warriors on the ground, and we have far more warriors than has the United States that do battle against us.

This was just a battle, nothing more. However, in the message sent about, it is stated that we are considering just doing first contact, and forgoing the Announcement. This is most definitely not true. Falling out the sky will cause more problems than will be solved, as there might then be an aerial battle noticed by those on Earth, and certain news stations would most certainly draw attention to it. We would then have a "war of the worlds" situation and create much fear in the process.

Remember in the message in April where I discussed the issue of the void needed for success? We cannot change the laws of physics, they simply are. We would be up against a huge amount of negativity to do so, and this of course is exactly what the BBB&G’s want. They want a large aerial battle, and this they will not get. This portion of the message, makes it possible to consider that the message is the work of the BBB&G’s having a bit of fun with you and with us.

There is not a problem with the prosperity and humanitarian funds. They are very secure, as is all of the precious metals involved. There is much out there right now, saying the funds have to be delivered before NESARA. This is not so, but this story has been put out that way for a reason. In fact, to deliver the funds just after makes more sense, because we will be in control, and there is not risk at that time of the BBB&G’s playing games with the computerized portion of the banking involved.

We will continue in these battles until won, and that should not be much longer. We continued yesterday and this morning, and are taking a respite, during which I am dictating this message. During the battles we did disable, meaning evaporate in your understanding, 30 of the local shuttles (flying saucers). Pretty soon at this rate, they will be gone. So not to worry. We are doing this battling carefully, so that we are not easily seen and we do not upset the peoples. My and the Masters Second Coming event will be a spiritual and sacred event. I will have it not other way.

We continue to plan on the Second Coming event within 2-3 weeks after the USA NESARA announcement, in order to do small contact activities and publicize our presence in the skies, prior to our major event. In that time, with the huge amount of education coming very rapidly, Earth peoples will know we come in peace and to be of help. They will trust us once they learn the truth of the corrupt governments.

I remind you once again, that we are actually ahead of what might have happened had NESARA been done as planned before we took it over last May. It has become a much grandeur program, very world wide, and we can get to work very quickly now in instituting the technology to heal the planet, and her peoples. Your own opportunities have much greater potential as a result. That is once reason we decided on this announcement process of the Second Coming this winter, so help better prepare you, and set you to dreaming and finding hope once again.

Without our influence, NESARA would have spread much more slowly, with more resistance occurring. Now we can move forward, as soon as this is finished without interference, at least with very little. I do still expect small difficulties afterwards, as we have discussed before. There may still be small bombings occurring for a period of time, and we do expect, not matter my big show, that some clerics will remain resistant, as this Second Coming is not in the keeping of their understanding of prophesy, given to them by our BBB&G’s.

We have said before, we can't remove all the BBB&G’s and the Little BB& G’s, we would be removing a great deal of the population that is in misunderstanding. Our game plan is nearly finished in it's current remodeling, and we press on!

Namaste and Salu, Christ Michael, Sovereign of the Universe of Nebadon, and as such, Commander in Chief, of Earth Project Transition, Pleiadian Sector Flight Command, Intergalactic Federation Fleet, Ashtar Command, Earth Representative to the Cosmic Council and Intergalactic Federation Council on Earth Transition.

Candace: for those missing the more frequent channelings, I found another interesting channeling from Sananda on my computer, and I have it nearly ready to send out. I also have a work in process with Lord Buddha, hampered by the NESARA activity recently, and my own interruptions to it. I tend to ask many questions, and I needed to take a little journey of memory before we finish it. Take care, Candace

Whoah.  Hold the phone!

NESARA is a ploy to keep lightworkers tied up, so we should instead focus on making NESARA happen?

Umm.. am I the only one that thinks that makes no sense at all?  lol

M.

I never said no one had a right to express their opinions and I certainly don't care to have anyone stroke my ego.  I respect everyone's opinion whether I agree or not.  I don't judge.  What I am saying is that the negativity seems to be abounding when the world is full enough of it.  Why can't we all express ourselves with love & light?  The negativity seems to be so thick it's biting.  Don't we all want the same thing?  Like Ed said - Let's all work together.  We are the Lightworkers.  We are the future.  Blessings ~ ~

This has been building up for a few days now and I cannot NOT write it.I apologize if it is harsh in places.Lets get a few things straight.We are here for the Earth.The Earth is transitioning as we speak.Nesara,whatever this is or isnt,HAS NOTHING ATALL TO DO WITH THIS! We are here for the Earth,our bodies are made of the Earth.The events,dramas,politics on this planet will play out however they will play out.If you truly are lightworkers,you will stop faffing(do you have that word??) about and get on with your work.This is not your purpose right now,to argue the case for a polarised veiwpoint.This is the image I am seeing,Two dots separated by a line.The two dots are polarities.Nesara is real/Nesara is not real.....people were killed at CNN/people were not killed at CNN....This is polarised thinking "either one of these is true,or the other one is".YOU WILL NOT FIND TRUTH IN EITHER OF THESE PLACES! I am sorry Crystalmom to be personal to you,but it seems to me that it is you and your son who are not being openminded,and are being very negative towards anyone who does not happen to agree with you and the way you choose to see things.You are being very closed minded and seeing only one side.I am glad shaq is so strongly presenting the other side to you (this refers to other threads also) he is to be commended for this,you need to see both sides to be in BALANCE and you are not in balance. You need to reasses your position and move INTO THE CENTRE.The Earth has received the full impact of all the energy that has been channeled into her.It is now time to reverse the the direction of the flow.For this you need to be fully connected to the Earth.She is full and complete and in ecstacy.The energy lines are in place,everything is complete.It is our task to be open and clear channels for this energy....thats it. No judgement, no right or wrong, true or false,this thing or that thing... It is our task to be open channels for creation.The Earth WILL MANIFEST HER CREATION THROUGH YOU. See yourselves  as ,say, the fillaments of a fibre optic light and keep yourselves firmly rooted to the Earth and her energy lines.These are strongly geometrical,in place, and FORMIDABLE.IT is your job to be a CLEAR AND OPEN CHANNEL TO LIGHT.You will receive the Earths energy and allow it to pass through you clearly and unimpeded as creation flows without the need of your judgement or your mind,the energy is divine,it is creation.This is the Earths moment,and you are part of the Earth. Stand in place and put your differences aside for one moment.......the dimension the Earth is calling to you from is not of human affairs or beliefs, but of CREATION andTHE ULTIMATE SOURCE OF LIGHT. You must bring the light up through your centre,receive her gift to you, and shower this blessing around the Earth  equally and consistently...........THE LIGHT WILL PERVADE AND DISPERSE ALL THAT IS NOT OF ITSELF..........this is Gods moment,rejoice, it is not for you to choose what is right and what is wrong....The Earth is impregnated with light, and is in ecstacy........feel it.......feel her breath......slowly and softly....breathing creation.....and let it be your breath...the breath of creation. Feel it. The Earth will manifest creation.Your body is Earth.......your spirit is Gods spirit...     Stay clear,and allow what will be to be.  You are not required to do anything right now, other than connect with Earths energy lines, be FULLY CLEAR AND OPEN, and allow the light to fall like a shower of rain , manifesting for her a new reality.           You have a very important part to play in this, you know.

Well Shining does have a point about whats important.  The Earth is on a timetable to Ascend which has an upper limit of about 2012.  Regardless of what we do, shes gonna move up to 5D, with or without us!

The knowledge that all of our physical and economic structures are going to be wiped in about 7 years really does give a sense of the proper priorities.  NESARA, the removal of the dark cabal, silly political fights like the Rove leak, all that is of secondary importance compared to the big picture.

Of course, theres a reason for all of those things happening now.  We need a period of peace, freedom and prosperity to allow us to focus on our own Ascension process.  NESARA and first contact and the second coming should give us the opportunity to focus on whats most important; reconnection with our higher spiritual purpose and recoding our DNA so we can rise with the planet.

So we all need to relax and let the process happen.  Pay attention and listen to your heart and remember you are capable of discerning the truth.

Michael

Well, Shining Light, I would have to say only this: there is not a single person on this forum, or all of humanity for that matter, that is totally balanced and centered. When I express my distaste with any post on this forum, it is not because of what that person beleives, it is because of the energy their message carries. I do not find it constructive to be a skeptic without a clear plan or counterpoint to an issue. As far as being "centered" goes, you have misunderstood the meaning behind my messages. If you read what I have to say, you will note that most of my message revolve around manifesting a positive reality. This is something of which I feel is not being done here, especially with all of the bickering about the right/wrong dichotomy. In my experience, there is no such thing as right or wrong. There are only things that work, and things that do not work. This concept is still subject to interpretation, which is why respecting peoples beleifs is important. How we feel about something has greater impact than many realize. For example: if beleiving in NESARA generates postitive energy, then that in and of itself is more important than NESARA's validity. Every bit of positive energy we generate is like another candle lit in a dark room. Soon enough that room will be filled with light. Since our thoughts and feelings create our reality, any positive outcome (NESARA included) is more likely to happen if we give it that energy. If we act as if it is real already, it, or a form of it, shall manifest. These concepts are our heritage. They are part of ourselves that we have lost that we must reclaim because they shall be what saves us in the end.

The reason I get upset when people respond with negative skepticism about NESARA is not because of my pride in beleiving it is true, it is because such things contribute energy towards manifesting a reality in which it is not true, and we live in a reality right now that desperatly needs NESARA or something like it (it has nothing to do with specific he said/she said whos right/wrong). Much of the skepticism that abounds stems from the mindset that we all really do wish for a better world and have become impatient with the waiting. I deeply sympathise with all of you on this because I was sick of waiting even before I heard of such things as NESARA. I have been learning patience all my life. Ever since I was able to cognitize higher morality, I knew that what was going on here on earth was wrong on many levels. I've been praying and waiting all my life for peace, equality, justice, and prosperity for all. With every event that pushed the world further into darkness, I felt a deep sadness inside that only furthered my resolve that something must be done to make changes. Impatience is a personal problem, a problem that everyone must work on. It has been increasingly difficult for those living in a westernized culture because of the conditioned vice of instant gratification. Patience is part of the grace of God, it is something that we have lost, and it is a loss that has caused much anger and frustration among those who should be working together.

I definitly beleive that we need to connect to the earth, shinninglight, and I have said nothing to suggest that I have not done this. As a matter of fact, there are many things that I do everyday to enlighten everyone around me. Everyday I channel white light into my body, I manually spin and adjust my chakras, I blaze the violet flame, I use the sacred Reiki symbols when needed, heal those who ask, and live a life of peace. The first step in connecting with the earth is to reconnect with eachother. This is part of the law of unity that must be realized by as many as possible in order to manifest a full shift in consciousness. We are all part of the earth, we are all part of eachother, we are all brothers and sisters, one family, one mind, one body. We all must abandon the seperatist conditioning and isolationism propigated by the dark agenda, for this is the only way.

Since I am part of humanity, I still am not totally centered, nor am I totally enlightened, and this can lead me to be frustrated with some of the things that I read here. It is not what is said, it is how it is said. I am sensitive to the energy that is put out with every message, and I know that some of them are sent out with anger. I forgive and forget, because that is my way, but I still hold the beleif that this kind of action is not serving anyone. Skepticism is healthy in doses, however, it can consume you to the point where you no longer know what is real and what is not. I have been there before, and it is no fun. It keeps you from focusing on your light connection and your God center, which, in the end, is a disservice to everyone involved in activly co-creating reality (which we are all a part of). I have to say that I deeply empathize with all of you here because, in a way, you all represent different parts of me in my different stages of development, past, present, and future. Remember, we are all one. There is something important to be learned here on this forum, there is no other reason we have all come together here. The lesson we need to learn is to set asside our anger and frustrations and have an enlightened discussion of where we are all headed. We need to learn to get along, to connect with the earth and eachother, and to send out positive vibes together.

Like it or not, you cannot ever fully dispel the idea of a dichotomy. They exist even in the ascended realms. What is different, however, is the reaction to them and how they are handled. We can chose to become angry and slip into a draconian mindset of "I'm right and you are wrong" or we can simply engage in a mature and enlightened debate with respect for all opinions and parties involved. I hope that no one here has interpreted any of my messages as negative, because that is not my intention. I appologize to anyone who may have take offense to anything I've said in the past and I send out the energy of love in the hopes that all may see what I have written for what it is and for what I intend it to be.

Once again, to summerize this incredibly long winded post:
-Skepticism is only healthy if expressed in a positive way
-Anger and frustration are counterproductive
-Impatience is counterproductive
-Believing in a positive outcome is step one in making it happen
-Not believing in a positive outcome ensures that there will never be one
-Finding a common ground between us will push us further toward global enlightenment

Hope I didnt bore you all to tears....
-love & light-
RM

I have been away for several weeks and have missed this forum.  The postings in this topic have been very helpful to me to reign in my impatience with the foiled NESARA announcement.  Your expressions here are making a difference.  Everyone's situation is different in this plane and yet we all want / need to have a common ground to our expression.  I think we have a GREAT, GOOD common ground in this forum!  Thank-you!!  NESARA IS NOW!