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i can totally believe that people here would entertain the delusion that putting Bush to death would solve any problems. It would not --

thus cults of personality sweep us in.


changing deep INFRASTRUCTURAL problems inherent in the American Governmental system, meanwhile would work towards the goal of unifying the planet in peace and harmony rather than in a police state enforced by fascism.

But really, the idea that putting Bush to death would do any "good" at all --

what about:  seeing to it that he and Mr. Rumsfeld and Mr. Cheney and a few others who share their views are never allowed to rule or legislate ever again?  What about seeing to it that they are encarcerated and recieve the sort of cognitive type psychotherapies that contribute towards eventually reintroducing criminals -- that's what those guys are, war criminals -- back into society?  Is showing evildoers the compassion in action that they wouldn't show others --


is that dead or considered passe?  This is the cultural climate these Republican fascists have basically enforced on the world, people are screaming BLOOD!  BLOOD!


-- but compassion seems weak...that's not truth, though at all.



But what's really happening is

Constitutional ideology
doesn't work. It's rotten and breeds tyrants while seducing the people with ideas of their rights.  It talks about Democracy but there are two different things.

This began with the famous Republican political conspiracy that climaxed with the forced suicide of one of the most famous Demogogues of all time.  And since then every Republican "election" has been a game played with people's minds.


That's what is really happening now...

the Republican basic distaste for the people (the demos is becoming distasteful.  But George W. Bush taking the fall for the crimes and deceptions of Platonic thinkers going all the way back to slaveowner Thomas Jefferson -- and farther -- won't solve anything.

What's REALLY at scape is the balance of power between Males and Females, and to explain THAT we need Dr. Eisler. She perhaps alone among intellectuals and writers truly understands what "phallocracy" means in terms of masculine domination of Republican political issues.

The constitution?  The original constitution?  In that Barack Obama is only 60% of a man for census purposes.  Gonna hunt down and kill the rest of the Injuns, too, finish 'em off?

The worst thing that George W. Bush did was present an "it's okay to be a stupid racist and force your opinion on others with a smile."

It's not o. k.!!

cataleptik wrote:

i can totally believe that people here would entertain the delusion that putting Bush to death would solve any problems. It would not --

But really, the idea that putting Bush to death would do any "good" at all --

what about:  seeing to it that he and Mr. Rumsfeld and Mr. Cheney and a few others who share their views are never allowed to rule or legislate ever again?  What about seeing to it that they are encarcerated and recieve the sort of cognitive type psychotherapies that contribute towards eventually reintroducing criminals -- that's what those guys are, war criminals -- back into society?  Is showing evildoers the compassion in action that they wouldn't show others --

is that dead or considered passe?

Me thinks you missed the point, Cat...personally I'm against the death penalty...the hanging of Bush by the gallows and me wanting to put the noose around his neck is actually a statement of irony...it's just a statement to express my desire to see Bush pay for his crimes...and I know that will never happen...it is your 'what about:' comment that is want I'm interested in...as in shipping the whole wicked lot over to Guantanamo and letting them live out the rest of their miserable lives with time to hopefully spend in contemplating the poor choices they've made...and I do highly recommend a weekly waterboarding session for each of them..afterall, Bush thinks that isn't torture anyway...let them taste the kind of suffering they have inflicted on others...works for me...

Last edited by organic (2008-04-02 20:26:36)

Well said, genniii...VERY well said...

Meeting on the CAPRICORN

Rae Ramsey

8th November 2007

There were meetings on the Capricorn on the 5th, 6th and 7th of November, with about forty-five people and other beings at the final meeting. Capt Helena presided. Some others were also terrestrials like myself. There were other meetings going on with 60-80 participants. Commander Soltec was at the meeting with three assistants.

This meeting was to discuss the change in plans brought about by Jupiter's incipient birth and how it affected present plans, plus coordinate the various governmental and banking changes occurring on Earth.

The other meetings had to do with geophysical matters, including the oil well fires Deb and Lily saw, as well as earthquakes and volcanoes around the globe...

There was a discussion of the freewill of the people, and the seniority of Gaia's freewill intentions, not only as the planet carrying the people, but also from the viewpoint that she is 'with the plan' (ascension), while the people as a whole are still oblivious (to it), and acting extremely unwisely as a planetary population (much was said about that, and various courses of action considered in various areas)....



Nobody who is sympathetic to what is going on here spoke out but me?
That CAN'T be the case...it just has to SEEM that way to my eyes right now and in hindsight.

But I know for a fact that many programmes were created to distract Americans and the global population from two facts:  that there was a secret "caballe" of American financiers who sold weapons to the Nazi Germans during world war two, led by one of the senior men of the Bush family at that time, Prescott -- the "Trading With The Enemy" scandal of 1942 --

and that there was SOME MYSTERIOUS DEALING WITH EXTRATERRESTRIALS between the time that that war ended and the beginning of the 1950s.

In the 1950s MK ULTRA was begun.

MK (stood for Mind Kontrolle) ULTRA had to do with the German scientists who got a new lease on life after Nuremburg.  (they never counted on the Information age, they were too busy learning how to modify people's behaviour and build the fifth reich on American soil as was their plan.  Naturally those who support them will LIE to defend this, and that is objective reality. smiling ass-holes.)

techniques including hypnotic creation of false memories were studied, erasing of actual memories, and "conditioning" with chemicals and compounds and hypnosis to create sleeper assassins.   There are dopey, sneezy, grumpy Americans who will say that anything the Gov't didn't admit could not have happened, and anything they do admit must be good for some reason.  This is the Fascist nightmare behind the scenes that will not be solved with bloody violent confrontations, but with honest political and personal examination and real logical thinking.


That there are extra terrestrials that have been LIED ABOUT as POLICY starting with the Truman Administration and going on with a pattern of total lies --


well, hey -- anyone here think that the American government would NEVER stoop to decieving in any way?  Anyone?  Willing to step forward and defend the American government as an always honest administration?

from the first post

Later that day I asked Jupiter if he would talk to me. He said:

I hurt.

This is great pain.

So much turmoil/turbulence inside me. It seems never-ending.

I wish it to be over.

Constriction, held with energy bonds.

Soon to be gone.

It seems that many people, consciously and unconsciously, send their thoughts to him, but nobody has the idea of listening to what he has to say. I told him that I received and understood what he said, then sent him one of my favorite combinations of green and gold light, later adding pink which seemed to be easing for him.

Ra Denora Em wrote:

tiaka9 wrote:

This meeting was to discuss the change in plans brought about by Jupiter's incipient birth and how it affected present plans, plus coordinate the various governmental and banking changes occurring on Earth.

The SEQUENCE OF EVENTS has been changed. The JUPITER event will precede “stasis”. There will be a glimpse of the beginning of the Jupiter event (for the benefit of religious groups), then Cmdr Soltec pulls the switch. Starting in Japan at night, it will work its way around the globe, with the West Coast of the Americas being last to take part. The Galactic Federation will then arrange elimination of pollution on the planet as well as the removal of the Illuminati, and mankind will re-awaken 3 weeks or 6-8 weeks later (depending on progress) to a vastly changed world, which we then continue to build.

Weird, but there seems to be two camps of lightworkers/channelers and two sets of Sanandas and St. Germains, plus a few other higher beings that are constantly giving us updates.
The first group(Patrick Bellringer, Candace, etc) are the ones constantly going on about this Jupiter event where the whole population of Easrth will be put to sleep for two months, and then there is the second group('the sane group', i call them.....lol) that says such an event is NOT gonna happen as there is no need for it, nor will we need to be put to sleep, as we will be part of the cleanup process. While they clean up our atmosphere, there is plenty we can do on land.
Candace says we need to be put to sleep so they can better activate our DNA and dormant Chakras. Well guess what, you don't have to be put to sleep in order for them to do that. Our DNA is being changed as we speak. And you can speed it up by meditating and doing inner work. That's what all these 11:11 and 12:12 gateway activations do. They bring in more light to Earth, and that light is that works in the background activating us.

I can't even beging to tell you how much resistance i have inside for what Candace and her Christ Michael say. Who the hell is that Christ Michael anyway? Candace and this Jess(who ALWAYS confirms EVERYTHING Candace has says, as if put there to make the whole thing more believable, seem to be the only ones that Michael character speaks through.
My inside is screaming WRONG WRONG WRONG, whenever i read Candace's writings.
Sorry if the above offends some of her fanboys/girls here, but i just had to say it.

yeah!


it does seem like there is disagreement, doesn't there?



On a certain level it's maybe
Team "There Is Only Dad"
and they don't agree with Team "There Is Only Mom"

and there is also Team "Mom and Dad Love Each Other."


i bet someone knows what i am saying.
But i am on team Mom And Dad Love Each Other.

I know I am not the only one who knows what's going on...


our planet's got MANY different versions of the creation of the universe, MANY different mythologies, and well, they all had to come from SOMEWHERE.



are we viewing ancient debates?

we still have the problem of Mr. Rumsfeld being the Mad Scientist that he is, because HAARP was made to HEAT the atmosphere.  So: in Bali only the United States refuses to align because: minds, tectonic fields and weather patterns are all being manipulated by a Machiavellian Grand Strategy to decieve EVERYONE and create MORE Oil Wars.

i think one of the best ways to annoy and hurt these petrol "Plutocrats" is to work to make alternative forms of efficient energy - like SOLAR -- a reality. Time will tell, but not much.  Remember how LONG ago the world trade center holocaust was?

cataleptik wrote:

I got the point.

Right now Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney are in charge of an American movement to ruin the planet.

That's as far as I got to read
since I have read some of your previous offerings and already know
you seem to think,  cataleptik,  that Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney are America
and harbor some sort of concept that all the rest of the People Of This Land are only facets of Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney  or else that they dont even exist and that only Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney &Co. are the totality of The United States in America

Just about every post I have read of your offerings, cataleptik, seem formatted as if you are dialing random numbers of private common citizens across the land yet when someone answers you seem to think you are speaking to only Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney &Co

I already knew that
but I didnt get a chuckle when you answered my last post as if you thought it was actually only Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney &Co speaking back to you
I didnt actually shudder either


I just didnt actually get to read the rest