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#1 2005-07-13 22:14:10

galacticbeing
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Helena's sources

After many months of Helena's sources of information regarding funding and the NESARA announcement being completely bogus, would it not be to much to ask if perhaps she stop relying on second hand information and use her cloaking abilities to know first hand exactly what is going on?

Short of that, I would suggest she show some integrity, admit her sources aren't reliable and be patient along with the rest of us for NESARA to be announced. Claiming that it will happen each week after so many failures borders on delusional.

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#2 2005-07-13 22:53:11

oneconnected
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Re: Helena's sources

I second that.

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#3 2005-07-14 04:53:43

Mirror_Image
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Re: Helena's sources

Why should she when she has achieved what she intended. To show you your own doubts.

No one can change their doubts until they *see* them.

Everything is an illusion. It  is created to allow you know who you are.
When you see another you see yourself.

What do you see in your Self here my friend?. Someone with good intentions that doesn't check things out fully and keeps repeating the same message again and again out of hope?

Do you spend too much time thinking and figuring out the illusion instead of feeling within?

There is no reasoning with illusion or proving it is false.

It is false and you help create it. The part you see is the part the reflects you completely.

  *see* what is so, not what you think is so.  *see* how you uphold the illusion with your reactions to it. 

the physicality is not real. It is created by you to allow you experience what you know within.

You can see it or deny it, it is up to you because because your the one creating it.

MI

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#4 2005-07-14 08:15:45

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Re: Helena's sources

Mirror_Image; alright, first off, i want to know how you know that her intentions was to show people their own doubts, having said that, you could say anybody giving out false information is just trying to show us our own doubts. so you could be saying GWB is not evil, simply just trying to wake up the american public from their slumber


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#5 2005-07-14 12:40:21

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Re: Helena's sources

Hi Mirror_Image,

Unlike yourself, I have no doubts as to the validity of the coming NESARA announcement and it is because of my 'going inside' that I do know.

As well, I also know that "What we preach, we need to learn".

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#6 2005-07-14 21:06:49

galacticbeing
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Re: Helena's sources

Mirror_Image,

FYI This is a suggestion area pertaining to the Capricorn and unless you are the spokesperson for Helena/Lavar I would suggest you post your comments elsewhere.

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#7 2005-07-14 21:47:09

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Sympozium,

Good question.
I know after I express, not before. It sounds weird but that is how it works for me. It is hard to describe in words but it is basically a decision to always give love. I know after I express. If I knew before I express it, it is generally my false sense of self (ego) up to its secret ambitions to be "better"  than the rest.

Yes, I could be most definitely someone giving out false information. Luckly (unluckly smile )  you have the power to discern what to do with what I say. May I suggest watching your expression to it, whether it be reactions or creations. Watch what you express from within.

I will share this, nothing I read is real until I decide it is. the only thing that is real is my connection to God. This means my connection to everyone. One way to be aware of the connection with God is to express from within, rather than figure out from the illusion.  Thoughts are mean't to create illusion for you to see, not to separate you from God and all aspects of God.  One can feel from within and express it to know what it is you feel. Just as I am doing now.

You are a gift to me to know what god says to me.

So I say to you sympozium that the only thing that is real is what you express to me and not what I am expressing to you.

MI

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#8 2005-07-14 21:54:48

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Re: Helena's sources

Galactic being,

Must definitely. what we preach is what we learn. However I prefer to say it another way, what we express is what we can choose to remember.  There really is nothing to learn only to remember. We create reality rather than discover it.

I do not represent Helena or Lavar but a starseed said to me recently that I represent the galactic federation. Whether that is true or not I don't fully know yet. But I did feel a deep knowing silence from within when he relayed that.

I am making a suggestion. I am suggesting to watch what you express in relation to Helena to know what you are desiring to know.

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#9 2005-07-14 22:15:08

galacticbeing
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Re: Helena's sources

Mirror Image,

Suggesting to Helena to stop believing her sources and to find out first hand considering the amount of dis-information she has been repeating, is a valid suggestion.

If Helena does represent the GFL and is here to assist us, then she is certainly not inspiring my confidence in her knowing.

Perhaps you are in awe of Aliens and believe automatically what they say. There are a few channelers as well that have been saying nonsense for years that many believe in also.

My point is that those who present themselves as knowers for NESARA and who constantly give out misinformation are in fact doing the whole process a dis-service.

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#10 2005-07-14 22:51:29

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Hi Galacticbeing,

I did not say your suggestion was invalid. I expressed who I am in relation to it. In duality there is a believe that if I am right then you must be wrong. In Unity containing diversity, there is only the expression of what IS and of who we are. Helena can take your suggestion and take mine and decide from there.

For me Helena is expressing her frustration and is showing me my reactions to it. I see so many limiting thoughts when I see a simialar message everyday. I know full well that between Helena and me, I have more power to change what is because I am living here. I am responsible for this planet. Thus it is my thoughts that need to change not hers. Changing my thoughts is what ALLOWS her actions to change. She can't show anything more to us than we allow by our limiting thoughts of who we "think" we are.

Yes I am very in awe of aliens but I must certainly to do not believe automatically what they say. both information and mis-information have been useful for me because I define my life from it. Most of the mis-information is to convince us to define our life according to the writers way. I simply see through this and use it fom my purpose instead.  to have thoughts of freedom and benefit for all.

The misinformation about NESARA can certainly be frustrating, but knowing i am the Co-creator of my life and I know I can simply go within. I am not bounded by what the others say.

To hear someone say NESARA  will not happen, and then for you to express from within that it will, takes a great deal of knowing of who you are. You ARE the source.

MI

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#11 2005-07-16 01:06:35

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Re: Helena's sources

May I throw in my two cents here? We choose in every moment how we contructively interpret our reality. We alone are the ones who choose how to react to or interpret anything. So, when people say that giving out false or incorrect dates is a disservice, it is merely a single point of view. If you choose to view it that way, then that is the way it will be (we create our reality, remember?). If you choose to view Helena's intentions as an innocent way of trying to give us hope, then that is the way it shall be for you. If you choose to acknowledge the situation for our star brothers as a monumentally tricky and labor intensive task that is often subject to last second changes, then you may forgive Helen for being over zealous in saying the things she says. I am not saying that I subscribe to either point of view, all I am saying is that everything is subject to how you choose to react to it and how you choose to interpret it.

I feel that if we truely understood the power of our thoughts and intentions in shaping reality around us, we would instantly stop bickering over who is right and who is wrong. Instead, we would simply choose a reality in which we wish to experience and make it so. It starts with a feeling, then a thought, then a prayer, then action. Too many of us are caught up in the illusion of right and wrong. The universe is far to big a place to divide into such a simplistic dichotomy, therefore we all must be mindful of making generalizations and assumptions. We must use our thoughts instead to bring about the new reality that we all wish for in our hearts.

Blessings and Grace...
-RM

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#12 2005-07-16 13:45:00

Crystalmom
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RM ~ as always ~ beautiful ~ where do you get all your wisdom?  smile

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#13 2005-07-16 14:07:21

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haha who cares, you gotta learn to just go with the flow and roll with the punches, why are most humans so hung up on knowing the future


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#14 2005-07-16 21:32:29

Reiki Mage
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Well Symposium, I for one have had far too many punches. There comes a time when you must counter the flow for survival, for we have reached that point. I do care because I live here, I wish to continue to live here, and I wish to have kids who can live here in peace and harmony, not having to know the hardships that we have faced. The future is now, and we must act to make sure that there is still a future left for all of us...

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#15 2005-07-17 06:21:31

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Re: Helena's sources

sympozium wrote:

Mirror_Image; alright, first off, i want to know how you know that her intentions was to show people their own doubts, having said that, you could say anybody giving out false information is just trying to show us our own doubts. so you could be saying GWB is not evil, simply just trying to wake up the american public from their slumber

Exactly!  On the highest levels youve hit it right on the head. The GWB part that is.

If in fact the universe was created to show us how to integrate the dark and light (polarity integration game), wouldnt the logical conclusion be that GWB is part of that plan?  Are not the darkest deeds of the cabals controlling this world all part of the highest spiritual goals?

And isnt GWB doing exactly that?  Being such a rotten soul that he wakes us up?

Its hard, I know.  I look at GWB and fight thoughts of hatred and deep, deep anger.  However, thats the idea.  GWB serves his part by showing us the things we hate the most, then challenging us,  through compassion, to integrate them, thereby learning the lesson and raising us further towards ascension.

I have to believe at some high soul level GWB was contracted to play this role for us.  I have to admit hes doing a bang up job.  What an idiot, what an awful, awful creature he is.  Which is why hes perfect for the job. smile

Michael

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#16 2005-07-17 12:00:46

sympozium
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yeah bush is part of the hitler thing according to the mayan calendar, should of been out of power a little while ago tho, thats the whole problem we face now, bush's crew will do anything to stay in power, the game has gone into overtime when it was never supposed too, so hopefully ol mate upstairs has stepped in now


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