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It also does not mean that it is truth.

Y'Know what, I dont wanna read back through this thread, and I have no clue why we're arguing anymore. I give.

Yes my friend but the truth in who's eyes though?

The truth in my eye's may in fact be a lie in your eyes.  But so often truth is destorted to fit personal beliefs.


So what is truth, and is there an absolute truth?


We may never know but all what we can do is keep listening to our gut feeling and follow up on what facts we can deemed to be truthful and have not been manipulated or interfered with.


Peace, Love and Enlightenment,

Ed

LAVAR ... I think you are being decived by earthbound spirits in your meditation . Next time you "channel" ask for Gods permission and for the holy spirit to be your guide. Then see what your vision shows you!
    "Beware the false profits" I do not believe there is a project that world leaders are planning with aliens?  They spend to much money debunking them to suddenly "about face".
I have read a book by Stan Deyo,  Ex- US military personel who was in mind control and other area's, who believes that the elite gov will orchestrate a false alien landing, which will be performrd by military personel, and actors to gain world contol. Through fear of distruction, we will be told to abide by there rules ( supposedly to bring peace ), but the underelying reason' was world domination. But that could also be a load of bollocks', so  I keep an open mind and keep gaining knowlede without staying stagnent.
    I mean there very well could be  shadow governments ( illuminati, the table of 13, the masons, bildebergers, WHOEVER? ) Any of these corrupt powerful societies could stage an alien landing. I have even seen this in my visions. Yet it also showed me that it was all staged event using mostly holograms.
    I  have also read a recent encounter report with a triangular craft, that accidentally exposed writing on the under carrage that was in English saying something like " escape ------ Hatch and numbers "? .... Do not be fooled, phisically or spiritually as 'many will be', and never fool others as the karma will come back to you. Keep an opened mind to all posibilities. Do you really think the powers that be would relenquish there free rain of power and financial abundance for an alien race, asside of there corrupt goal of greed I still feel that through there patriatism as all of us have, there would be much concern that this is our planet and not for the taking by an outside race. This very patriotic weakness of us all could also be used against us if it was an orchistrated contact by our own people.
    It seems many keep waiting with baited breath ( not me personally ) for the landing? Every transcript of yours
Quote's, Much of all our preperations are complete, or There was a delay because of *@#+> whatever?, or
Nesara is not through yet.  " WAKE UP "  I think you are being drawn into an exiting ( frightening ) senario that is either a HOAX by you, OR an ELITE GOV using mind control, Or earth bound spirits playing with your mind as maybe you are not going through heavenly channels.
    Look Lavar there are much better ways that you can be helping the human race. We dont need aliens to interviein, there are billions of people living on this planet ,who if join together for this
same outcome can overthrow all these corperate elite, secret operations and politically corrupt gvernments. We elected them, they work for us and all money needs to be accountable to us.
Lavar, read your bible again_ All you need is love and Jesus as your saviour.
    I believe that the planet is in trouble and all the extreme weather is due to the imminent pole shift not our waste products. I do not belive we have harmed the earth, but that a natural change of planetary structures are unfolding, as did 25 thousand years ago. The axis is now tilted approx 23 deg'-  which means the polar regions are now that much closer to the sun and the line of "capricorn" !!!!!! ( this site ) So it is inevitable that change is coming and beleive me no alien intervention can stop this. Maybe you would be well advised to ask your source about crop circles? I as many others would be very interested in there reply!!!!
     I am not a bible basher, or a religious finatic. I have experienced other dimentions, astral trvel , unconditional love, channelling, phsychic abilities, visions, conspiracy theories, whatever 'yet I still keep an open mind. I believe the key to the truth will come from all idea's and vision.
   If you really are in contact, what assurance do you as a weaker race have on their benevolence- there motives.  We have never taken control of our destiny as a people, so what makes you think the powers that be will let an alien race walk in and take over. If there is an alien race about to invade our space, could this be the evil that is to rise once again, spoken of after the thousand years of peace. Things certaily seem to be taking on evil and corrupt errie-ness. And America seems to be at the forfront of the financial and powerful stance.
    Do not relenquish your free will to anyone- World leaders, or space beings because once they have it, they can do anything with your soul. our physical existance, our beautifull planet and the whole human race.
    This thread is not intended to insult you or dump on your inteligence, as I value your opinion and all idea's add to the piece of pie that will solve the riddle. All views when finally consumed will form the portrait.
    Try stepping back for a few months, Listen, read much and let your gut instincts take you further. Then ask many QUESTIONS to "WHOMEVER" you talk to............

P.S  Please reply to this thread, stating where I can read about what NESARA is?, and who are the people in America implimenting it. I would also really like to hear from you regarding this post to "YOU",  as many of your readers say that you never return correspondance, so please if you are genuine, this is also a genuine artical that many will await your input to ..................  love and light, ORION_452

Last edited by orion_452 (2005-09-22 14:41:34)

orion 452

If you are looking for help finding about NESARA, you are barking up the wrong tree.  Around here, everyone cherishes NESARA and waits for it to happen, but no one is really concerned if it is a reality or not. 

Instead, you will be told to "look within" to find the proof or the answers.  You will be told that there is no such thing as proof, and the answers will be found within yourself.

In fact, you will be told just about anything to avoid the issue of actually offering proof of the existence of NESARA.

Channel groupies will say, as they have been saying for a long time now, that we are increasing our dimensionality and the aliens await to take us into the next dimension with the announcement of NESARA.

So they wait, and wait, and wait.  Still nothing changes, except the Evil Empire becomes stronger and stronger.

They will not admit the possibility that this whole thing is being orchestrated to create false hope and inactivity.

Furthermore, many follow the words of Dove (do a google search, NESARA + Dove) who swears to the existence of NESARA and it's secret passing and gag order by the government.  This information allegedly gathered by some friend of a friend who works for someone in intelligence.  This is a very common technique used by those with absolutely no evidence.

Some around here claim to have received money from NESARA, but they balk at the opportunity to produce cashed checks or any proof to their claims.

They will also claim that they heard from Bill Clinton's doctor, or from someone who is "high" up with the Rothchilds that they confirmed the reality of NESARA.  This is their only proof?  I heard from so and so?  We remember how that works, just think how rumors got started in grade school.  And this is the proof that people thrive on around here, rather than actually finding hard-core proof or testimony.  Instead, you will again, be told, to look within for your proof.

I did all of the research I could manage here on my computer, and the only sane conclusion is that NESARA is a concept that has positive intentions, but that is all it remains.

And as far as Dove, Candace, Lavar, and the others who perpetuate this "un-reality," they are doing more to strengthen the Evil Empire than they will ever know.  I don't care how old you are, how many channelling sessions you have been involved in, or the intent.  The end result is disappointment, anger and confusion. 

And because the quest for truth and proof is excused so rampantly around here, I feel the same way about anyone who perpetuates these lies through their posts.  I am not saying that I hate anyone, because I do not.  I feel we are all connected, so to hate one is to hate oneself.  Let's just call these people moles that have developed that we hope aren't cancerous.

Heh.

They will certainly never answer the easy questions, so why would they answer the difficult ones?

Symp:  Have you seen the movie "The Day After Tomorrow"?  Do you think this was made to introduce the possibility of planetary ruin?

yes,this film was very shocking,and i though too what if its true