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There are so many lies within lies within lies that I can't make heads or tails anymore with what to believe with any of this stuff.  Someone slap me 'cause this is all just a bad nightmare, right?  Darn, I guess if it really was a nightmare THAT would be the easy part.  This is just too bizarre for my little brain to wrap around. 

Last edited by organic (2006-04-14 15:44:30)

genniii wrote:

http://www.rense.com/general63/sorcha.htm

the Truth is out there
missinfo is everywhere

Oh dear me......Me thinks there IS misinfo everywhere including here.  O.K. I'm awake, I'm awake now.

Dumping the current people in control will not weed out the bad. The same people can stay, they only need to change their agenda. If they dont change, it will then remove them by there own action.

In my opinion Sorcha Faal is not a reliable source.  In this particular story I do not believe Brian Doyle was arrested because he was involved in any planning against the Bush regime at all.  I believe he was arrested because he is a predatory pedaphile.  I also do not believe that the Department of Homeland Security is involved in any counter coup against the government.  Remember this is the department that was founded after the insider 911 scam.  Its origins are calculated steps in fascist control of Americans and have nothing to do with "security".  There have been lots of clashes between DHS agents and legitimate law enforcement agencies throughout the country.

Wayne Madsen,who is a credible resource, has been following the culture of pedaphilia that appears to be developing within Department of Homeland Security.  He's posted 3 separate analysis & incidents on the subject this month alone. 

Some say Sorcha Faal is a government plant.  I don't know whether she is or not but a suspicious person might wonder if this story is a plant to try to distract attention from the multiple arrests for pedaphilia that are currently coming in on DHS.  "It's not that we're a bunch of fascist baby rapers folks, we're the good guys trying to rid the world of the Bush regime".  I very much doubt that. 

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/ 

April 14, 2006 -- PEDOPHILIA AND THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY.

This anonymous posting to a blog forwarded to WMR rings very true. DHS is a ruse created from the ashes and rubble of the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and rural Pennsylvania to perpetuate even greater and more heinous crimes against the most vulnerable Americans: the children: 

"I was a field agent for the DHS in Oklahoma for about 2.5 years and was asked on a few occasions to pick up some "puppy chow" or "tender vittles."

When I learned about these expressions I was shocked. I have children of my own and I raised the issue and was let go because I was suddenly "inadequate" for the job. Now, I cannot get a job even as a security officer guarding a cemetery. I have been out of work for about 4 months. I am faced with relocating far away to a different state and might have to leave the country, if possible and necessary.

I feel that my records have me black-listed.

I would rather not say more".

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April 7, 2006 -- DHS PEDAPHILIA UPDATED AND REVISED

Note to all schools, teachers, principals, and school boards from Key West to Ketchikan. It seems that the Department of Homeland Security has more than pedophile senior executives (Brian Doyle and Frank Figueroa) in its employ. News comes from Jacksonville, Florida that Leander Pickett, a teacher's assistant at Englewood Elementary school, was roughed up and handcuffed by two Homeland Security agents who interfered with Pickett as he was directing school buses in front of the school. Pickett politely asked the two to move their vehicle and they refused. The Homeland Security officers claimed they pulled on to school property to read a map. With Doyle and Figueroa targeting teens in Florida, there is a distinct possibility that other Homeland Security agents are, like Doyle and Figueroa, using their positions to entice children, including those on school property. There have been ample cases of Transportation Security Administration screeners frisking children as young as eight years old.

Perhaps with Homeland Security now identified as a bevy of sexual predators and pedophiles, Homeland Security agents should be required to register with local police before they are permitted to engage in any activities within city and township boundaries. Mr. Pickett potentially may have averted a child kidnapping and as someone who has been involved in FBI and Navy counter-intelligence investigations of similar cases, this editor can surmise that the two agents may not have been looking at a "map" at all, but photographs of potential victims. The fact that they were present at the school during a time when school buses were transporting children is even more suspicious. Information WMR has received indicates that Englewood is a residential neighborhood, far from potential terrorist targets. Homeland security personnel have been federally deputized from local sheriff's departments and Christian Fellowship congregations, according to local informed sources. It should be noted that "Christian Fellowship" and their collection of mega-churches are synonyms for child predatory activities.

April 6, 2006   DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND PERVERSION

Doyle wasn't the only child predator. Department of Homeland Security deputy Press Secretary Brian Doyle, arrested in Maryland for soliciting sex from a Florida undercover detective posing as a 14-year old girl, had company within the department. On October 25, 2005, Tampa-based Homeland Security Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement official Frank Figueroa was arrested at Orlando's Mall at Millenia for exposing himself and masturbating in front of a 16-year old girl in the food court. Figueroa used his federal law enforcement badge in an attempt to avoid arrest. Amazingly, Figueroa had been in charge of the Homeland Security Department's Operation Predator, designed to curb child sexual exploitation and child pornography.

Amethyst

The newer thinking and treatment of pedaphilia is along the lines of the addiction model.  The treatment of alcoholism is to avoid alcohol.  The treatment of pedaphilia is to have no unsupervised contact with children - ever.  The Catholic church's decades long policy of sending offending priests to a new parrish is like sending an alcoholic to a new tavern. 

Pedaphiles are also seeking power over their victims as well as sexual gratification.  It's particularly egregous when it occurs under the guise of institutional power, such as priests, Homeland Security agents, teachers, etc. 

Process addictions like pedaphilia and gambling are more difficult to understand than substances like alcohol or cocaine but drugs are indirectly involved.  Instead of shooting or drinking the drug, the process addict manipulates his/her environment so that the body releases adrenalin or various brain chemicals into the blood stream.

I've been somewhat following the number of fundamentalist religious fanatics that are getting caught up in the gambling/lobbying/money laundering scam of Jack Abramoff.  Ralph Reed of The Christian Coalition, Rev Louis R Sheldon, Traditional Values Coalition and James Dobson, Focus on the Family have all been involved with the offshore gambling boats and money flow.  William Bennett, a heavy moralizer of the Reagon and Bush I administrations, has long had a serious gambling addiction.

The holy trinity of Greed, God & Gambling. 

Amethyst

Last edited by Amethyst (2006-04-16 06:52:50)

genniii wrote:

the chemicals are poured into the blood stream
due to the action of thought and or passion
there is a lock and key arrangement between these chemicals and every cell in the body
a thought
a feeling
an impulse
activates thier release into the bloodstream to be carried to the cell

like anything else it would break down if not fed
thus it cries out Quantumly with all of it's ISness to be fed like the habit it has become
it is materialized mass -  constructed out of the non-mass powers and energies of Being
it is now the enemy of Free Will
for it has become the Way
( I am the Way - The Truth) I am addicted!
and the path widens because that which is focused on increases

but with discernment and perserverance
the new is built in the body

Wow, now if that isn't the most accurate description of an addiction, I don't know what is.  Beautiful flow of thoughts there, genniii.  You've covered the road of an addict very well. 

I suggest the pediphilas who are caught, or arrested, be permentantly castrated and have their identity posted on the Internet for their crimes for life without the ability to have it removed.

if you look at pediphila as an addiction, its our children, who are caught in the middle, because healing addiction takes time and relapses............
  and who do you think the suffer as we heal the addiction of pediphila? Our children.
Solution....cut it off at the Source............jailed for life...........or moved to an isolated location for individuals who do harm to others.........

Haida 40 said:

**if you look at pediphila as an addiction, its our children, who are caught in the middle, because healing addiction takes time and relapses............**

Haida 40, don't worry.  In no state that I know of is pedophilia treated as a medical problem and not a criminal one.  You are absolutely correct healing all addictions take time and there are relapses.  In fact, the terminology in the addiction treatment field is that one is not "cured" but is in "recovery".  Bottom line is children have to be protected at all times and that pedophiles simply should not be unsupervised with children.  Proper external controls need to be in place.

Aa far as castration, actually there is such a thing as "chemical castration".  Its controversial & there's disagreement as to its efficacy.  It seems to be more wildly used in Europe than in the U.S. and I don't think all states allow it but I don't really know.  I googled the subject and came up with this article from New Zealand. 

Sex Offenders, Recidivism and Chemical Castration.  http://www.safe-nz.org.nz/Articles/sexoffenders.htm   

Amethyst

tstandamn wrote:

My opinions on this.

There are no conspiracies concerning government sponsored child pedophilia rings.  If anyone has any proof of this, then why don't they bring that proof forward and press charges?

Wrongo in the Congo t stan Gaw damn

It would be a most nasty distastefull education but you really should read
http://www.trance-formation.com/

But then most likely you would not believe the cold hard evidence in the face of the oh so nice people like vice President cheney proclaiming that some stuff is balderdashery
Even Duncan Cameron of the Montauk Project infamy bit the dust and tried to pooh pooh stuff that people just didnt want to believe either

http://www.think-aboutit.com/Misc/phoenix_undead2.htm#8 wrote:

Unfortunately, in the fall of 1997 Duncan Cameron apparently came under the sway of certain people who, judging by the viewpoints, concepts and agendas which it is known they have promulgated towards Cameron and others, are (perhaps even unwittingly) furthering the aims of secret government spin doctors and "reality engineers"; those who have undertaken a campaign to change the perceptions of some of the Phoenix Project's most fundamental aims.

In short, Cameron has let it be known that he has reversed his previous contentions regarding the massive and often tremendously brutal mind control programming carried out at the Montauk base involving numerous youngsters. Anyone who has seen Cameron's totally spontaneous and completely devastated reaction when confronted directly with clear evidence of the caging of many young people in the "boy's bunker" area of the Montauk underground, a scene which can be viewed on the first of the Montauk Project videos released by Sky Books, would find it absolutely inconceivable that Cameron could ever issue a public statement along these lines.

Cathy O'Brien of "Trance Formation" is not the only one screaming blue murder over the paedophilic misuse by relatives yes but others also

http://www.the7thfire.com/child_sexual_abuse/trance_formation_of_america.htm wrote:

An integral part of MK-Ultra is Project Monarch perhaps the most damning episode in the history of mind control, whereby the minds of women and children are brutally taken over in order to provide paedophiles, politicians, criminals and practising Satanists with willing sex slaves who could also double as covert operatives by having their personalities and memories switched on and off at will.

The details of this horrific plan by the Elite to take over the planet through mass mind-control have come from the ex CIA mind-controlled slave, Cathy O'Brien, and are described in harrowing detail in her book Trance Formation Of America. After a lifetime in the clutches of the MK-Ultra Project Monarch mind-control program she became what is known as a 'Presidential Model', a sex slave used specifically by the presidents for perverted abuse. Her abusers include the presidents Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan and George Bush as well as a host of other key US politicians. These fiends would routinely torture and rape her and later her daughter, Kelly, for personal gratification whilst using drugs and electric shock trauma to further compartmentalise her memory of such events in order to hide their actions. Because of her status and entirely programmable mind Cathy was used in many major political/criminal covert operations and was used to pass on Top Secret information in such affairs as the Iran-Contra deals.

Cathy's life began as the victim of multigenerational paedophilic incest. Her first memory in life is being choked by her father's penis in her throat. This initial trauma began to cause her mind to compartmentalise into separate personalities which could deal with traumatic situations, as a mental survival tool, whilst her 'normal' personality was left to deal with everyday events. Her mind dissociated from the memory of abuse whilst developing another personality which belonged to her father and was triggered on the sight of his arousal. This was the beginning of the creation within Cathy's psyche of a phenomenon known as Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD), now known as Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID).

There are many stories that have never seen print
and many that dared not trust anyone to even utter a word for fear that the hearer could be part of the enemy

Even back to the days of American Bandstand there were musicians that were abused for purposes even beyond the absurd depravities
I was in second grade when I instinctivly kicked someone in the face that was being a little bit 'funny'
and I was past my 17th birthday when I broke a bunch of someone's teeth and also broke thier jaw with a 2X4 for attempting to dominate my own will and body. And witnesses lied for me cause they knew this person's deeds before I came on the scene.
But what gives me personal tie to this greater stuff is that I was put in the position of being the confessor for a musician that I knew before he began to become more widely known and also became familiar with his brother who had already become pretty much controlled. I learned much that never should have been able to happen outside 11th century London England Slums where parents shaved private areas of children so they could sell them for more. Which practice I am sure bloomed in antiquity.
And the two youths I just mentioned above are no longer alive because they were already destroyed while still in body.

Thing is: it is Power that corrupts.
ans police, authorities etc believe more the words of the powerfull that they admire

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sorry tstan but damn you hit a nerve in me with

"bring that proof forward and press charges"

that just does not work

the only thing one can do is jump out of the bushes and WhamWhack someone across the face with a six foot 2X4 and claim self defense

terrible thing perhaps for me to say
but sometimes the angels help the one who helps himself

I don't believe that Montauk stuff for a second.

And again, if there is proof enough for you to believe in government sponsored pedophilia, there should be enough evidence to convict.

Where, again, is the court case?

http://starshipcapricorn.org/punb126/up … hp?id=3203
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/141003c … lence.html
http://starshipcapricorn.org/punb126/up … hp?id=3324

genniii wrote:

Cathy O'Brien of "Trance Formation" is not the only one screaming blue murder over the paedophilic misuse by relatives yes but others also

This is an eye popping read and something most of us would rather not know about.  No one wants to even remotely toy with the idea that things like this have happened and are still going on.  Where's the proof?  Our government is notorious for covering its tracks so that things like this stay hidden.  Once in a blue moon someone gets the axe, but the web of deceit still continues on long after 1 in thousands of officials gets caught.  What's new?  It is our government's own misuse of power that allows this sick and twisted perversion to keep going.  The very idea is ludicrous, is it not? Who would believe such a thing?  Our own government officials, who are supposed to be in their very positions of power because of their "high morals and integrity", are able to hide behind their clearance cards and they know it.  What a perfect ruse. 

"Oh the wicked webs we weave when with our lies we choose to deceive."

Last edited by organic (2006-04-21 20:35:14)

This is Canadian novelist & satirist, Jeff Wells blog.  It's very sophisticated, well researched and covers lots of topics, including a lot on ritual pedophilia.  When you read around his blog (and he is a prolific writer with an enormous range of subjects), you'll find much of his research on topics that are generally considered "far out" are actually taken from mainline media sources and are either put in context or are connected with similar news stories from other times or places to develop the pattern.

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/

Subheading for the site is "What you don't know can't hurt them."

It's a little off topic but to give you a flavor of what I mean I'm posting his latest article which is taken from UPI, but this stuff just does not get picked up by major newspapers like the New York Times.  It's knee jerk to consider this kind of article "conspiracy theory" from the internet.  Again note, this is a UPI wire service story that Jeff is highlighting. 

FRIDAY, APRIL 21, 2006

WON'T YOU COME HOME, RENO HARNISH

There's a black Mercedes rollin' through the combat zone - Bob Dylan

There aren't many small countries with greater geostrategic heft than Azerbaijan. Wedged between Russia and Iran, it's a major port of entry to the West for the region's oil and heroin, much of the latter being routed through the distribution hub of Kosovo, secured in the Balkans wars of the last decade.

Another commodity in Azerbaijan's pipeline subject to fantastic mark-up is the flesh of young women. Anar Orujov, in his report "Azerbaijani slaves of the 21st century" for the Caucasus Media Investigations Center, writes that "in our country a prostitute can make a profit from $7,000 up to $100,000 depending on the 'exploitation conditions.' No doubt that such a profitable business paves the way to spend a lot of money to 'hunt' the people, and establishment of a large mafia network which sometimes even the high-ranking officials are involved."

The composition of the US-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce certainly suggests another large mafia network hasn't neglected Baku. The "Honorary Council of Advisors" includes James Baker, Lloyd Bentson, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Dick Cheney (resigned after the Nov 2000 election), Henry Kissinger, Brent Scowcroft and John Sununu. Richard Perle is a Trustee, and Richard Armitage was on the Board until his State Department appointment. Turkish and Azerbaijani were Sibel Edmonds' two languages in the FBI's translation department when she discovered the intersections of drugs, arms and oil.

So it's with some interest I read that the US State Department has today announced the recall of Ambassador Reno Harnish, former Chief of Mission, Pristina (capital of the aforementioned hub of Kosovo - and late of the American Enterprise Institute. Why, is of particular interest.

From UPI:

The Azerbaijani media is rife with speculation that Harnish is being recalled because of a burgeoning human smuggling scandal which came to the attention of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

The Moscow newspaper Trud newspaper reported on Thursday that FBI agents began interviews with embassy officials about the smuggling of Azerbaijani prostitutes into the United States and the issuing of visas.

As the investigation proceeded, Zarifa Dzhabieva, a former translator for the American embassy was found knifed to death in her own home. Whoever killed Dzhabieva ransacked her dwelling looking for something, even though none of the victim's valuables had been touched. Dzhabieva was under investigation for aiding and abetting the issuing of visas and forged documents to girls destined for the U.S. sex trade.

Tales of prostitution, visa fraud, human trafficking and the murder of an embassy translator prompted the bizarre comment from public relations official Jonathan Henick that ""The uncovering of the crime linked to the sale of Azerbaijani girls to the USA, and the punishment of the guilty parties merely shows the high level of American-Azerbaijani relations."

A translation of the Trud story, reproduced in Pravda, can be read here. Trud adds that "It is known for certain that the enlistment and transfer of young people from sunny Azerbaijan to no less sunny Florida were organized on a truly American scale and brought large profits."

Reno seems destined to land on his feet, reputation unsmudged. His next assignment appears already lined up. According to "diplomatic sources", he will find an environmental posting engaged in the "fight against bird flu."

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Amethyst