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Northern Spirit posted from Priest, Name Withheld:

“Without going into too much detail about my former employers, I will briefly tell you that I have had a Top Level security clearance in the Vatican for quite some time. Most of the work I have done regrettably falls into the realm of "black-ops", and I will not go into detail about that now.”

genniii wrote: 

“The Vatican is a country
at the upper levels of every country of any power on our planet
the intelligence (not the enlightenment ... grin)
are all the same people

they used to be called 'Grey Men' because they were never seen”

I posted the following regarding the Vatican before on a discussion with genniii on  layers of truth.  I believe it has relevance to this topic as well as to ongoing discussions of truth and public awareness. 

Ever wonder where the phrase “bullshit” came from?  Most of us think it has to do with bovine excrement and thus vaguely refers to something smelly.  It’s moved into our language as a form of lie detector.  We talk about things not “smelling right” and “sniffing out the truth”. 

But the term has nothing to do with the bathroom habits of cows.  In the middle ages the pope’s official decrees and edicts were called Papal Bulls.  Clerics wrote the edicts on sheets of paper.  Thus we have sheets of Papal Bull or Papal Bull sheets. 

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A Papal bull is a special kind of patent or charter issued by a pope and named for the seal (bulla) that was appended to the end to authenticate it. Papal bulls were originally issued by the pope for many kinds of communication of a public nature, but after the 15th century, only for the more formal or solemn of occasions. Modern scholars have retroactively used the term "bull" to describe any elaborate papal document issued in the form of a decree or privilege (solemn or simple), and to some less elaborate ones issued in the form of a letter. Popularly, the name is used for any papal document that contains a metal seal.
Papal bulls have been in use since at least the 6th century, but the term was not first used until around the middle of the 13th century and then only for internal un-official papal record keeping purposes; by the 15th century the term had become official when one of the offices of the Papal chancery was named the "register of bulls" (registrum bullarum).

It would be interesting to know how far back in history papal bulls came to be recognized  as “bullshit”.  I also wonder if on some level people realize what they are saying when they call something “bullshit.”   
Amethyst

Last edited by Amethyst (2006-03-26 03:25:27)