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tstandamn · 2006-01-17 15:21:16

http://www.thenesarahoax.bravehost.com/index.html

http://www.thenesarahoax.bravehost.com/hucksters.html

http://www.thenesarahoax.bravehost.com/Endgame.html

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organic · 2006-01-17 19:55:39

Right on, tstan! right on.

senhuwa · 2006-01-17 21:37:04

Tstandamn,

What will happen to you, if you simply let those naive NESARA-believers believe whatever they believe in?

Sen Huwa

tstandamn · 2006-01-17 21:38:31

You know what will happen? They will stay in their safe little NESARA section, and I'll post whatever I want, whenever I want. Just like you or anyone else.

senhuwa · 2006-01-17 21:40:26

I just wondered what will happen to you ...

epiphany · 2006-01-17 22:51:18

tst..I looked over your post on the above : http://www.thenesarahoax.bravehost.com/Endgame.html

This is the politics you are into..(I took the "R" word out)...which means, you like the politics that are happening here and now...as I am assuming because of your post now and past posts...and this is why you are so into the proof..where is the proof...no proof of nesara, no proof to you that Bush has been arrested...blah blah and so on...I see no proof either..however what differs from you and me, as that I can say that in GOD I do trust...which means..I trust that this present regime will be over turned...this is the proof of the puddin'...it is happening now...Murtha was on 60 minutes telling the public that we are being misled and still are...we had Gore giving a wonderful uplifting speech to get the politican motivated...and this media madness never lets the truth be told, they are bought and sold by GE, Westinghouse, which makes bombs for the war on terror and keeps it going!
As I stated before..you being on this forum is like me being on a republican forum telling them that they are f**king up our country with their freakin agenda, hiding behind their zionisims, hiding behind their puppetiers that want to control it all through WMD's..through depeleted uranium...through bombing 10 pakistanian villagers to get to whom, this al-queda dude..shiit..who the freak gave them the orders to kill these people. They are tryin to distract from the real issues, coinicidence that they bombed those people while this issue of survailence came up? no there is no such thing as coinicidence...are you being survailed..so you like it? oh you say I have nothing to hide? I have nothing to hide either..I make it known I am a very unhappy tax payer..I do pay my share....what have you done for your country lately, cept sit around and bash the people who are in support of change...you like it the way it is???
I care not for nesara whether it comes or not..I never did..I don't care about money one way or the other..I could survive in the wilderness on grass and mother earth herself..what I care about most is to right this wrong this gov't and all gov'ts have been doing for 1000's of years...I care to feed the starving children, and give the homeless a place to live...I care for mother earth and healing her from the poisions corporations are allowed to do to her, because of some sick agenda that they care not for you and me....TST when push comes to shove they will not care for you either!

tstandamn · 2006-01-18 15:24:56

Here we go again. You are putting me on a polar side of every issue, as if you think I am a Bush supporter or something. You need to wake up epiphany. I am so glad, you are like 95% of the world putting your faith in God...HOW ORIGINAL!!! Let's talk about the issues!! You and your cronies cut and paste stories all over this forum, that are filled with nithing but bull crap. Just because I know, not think, but know that Bush hasn't been arrested, your twisted mind seems to think that I don't want it to be true, and that is the big flaw in your thinking. And you think I am responsible for distracting from the real issues? The typical defensive response, that we have seen over and over again at Capricorn, when someone is faces with a dissenting opinion.

Do I like the way it is? No I don't. I don't like war, and I speak out about it all the time. In the real world. But just because I don't believe all these bull crap fake news stories and flowery b.s. channellings from internet gurus with only popularity in mind, don't assume I am a republican, or a non-thinker. Truth be told, I would bet my I.Q. is double yours, but I wasn't going to even bring that up.

You act like you are doing such a great service around here, but I just don't see it. All I see is people spreading disinformation, and then when someone like me calls you out on it, you call me Dark, or misguided.

epiphany · 2006-01-18 16:07:08

tst damn..if you read what I wrote..you would see I said I had no proof either in the arrest of bush..duh! read it...well your hoax site up there where you posted is very right wing and puts the left down..did you read it? So where did I ever see you post that you dislike this administration...all you do is put down others..hehe..you think your so slick...you bet your IQ is double mine...who gives rats ass...you are a simple minded fly on the wall...
you're the one that needs to take a good look in the mirror and see your reflection and it aint too pretty....you are the one looking at yourself and calling yourself names...
There are far too many people here in this forum that ignore you, more than they ignore me..there are many here that think you are the ass...not me...
What are the real issues TST DAMN...the real issues are that this administration needs to be booted out...they will start up the draft, they will start up with Iran, the president is a war mongur, that people in general do not care because they are sleeping infront of the media TV and lap up all the lies they are being told....do you agree with that? if you do then that is my point....but if you don't then that is Your problem...
Believe what you will TST Damn..I dont really give a fudge...I can say and do whatever here just as much as you darling....

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tstandamn · 2006-01-18 17:24:09

For a peaceful light worker wannabe, you can really get yourself worked up in a negative tizzy.

If that website is right-wing, that doesn't mean the facts are false. I am not right wing, I am not left wing. I seek information, and the only fact-based information about NESARA and Dove can only be found by ignoring the websites such as fourwinds, nesara.us, tomflocco, etc....

I don't care how many people think I am an ass, because the "right" people know that I am not an ass. And the few who know that I am not an ass make much more difference to me than all the groupies combined.

I am a simple-minded fly on the wall? You have no basis of knowing that. In one ear and out the other.

And about the people ignoring me!! Fine with me. That is a typical response, or cognitive dissonance if you will, when an argument has one side imaginary, fact-free, and base-less, and the other argument is well-constructed, fair, scientific, and reality based. Your groupie friends who ignore me know exactly why they ignore me, and it certainly isn't because I am telling lies. It is because they don't like dissenting opinions. And regardless, I only get into push and shoving matches when I have to.

So to take the non-groupie approach, I will answer your questions.

If you need to see my opinions of politice, see my 1000 posts. Never have I ever agreed with this administration or on the war in Iraq. Never have I supported George Bush, and I do not support war. My stance on the economy and fossil-fuel pollution are firmly anti-present administration. Never have I posted otherwise, like you would like to think.

Will they start a draft? No they won't. (my opinion)

Do people sleep in front of media tv and lap up all the lies they are told?

Yes they do, just like people sit in front of this forum and lap up all the lies that are spread around here. For proof, see the posts concerning the Fitzgerald indictments where everyone was suckered in to believing that there were to be 26 indictments. See the hundred or so Lavar channellings that are laced with half-truths and lies, covering his Mormon agenda. See the thread that said Bush was a hologram giving a speech. See the posts that said Bush is under house arrest...I could go on all day long if I wanted to.

But I am sure you will continue to ignore me and the sense I make. Typical at best. You are only doing yourself and the forum a great disservice in our continued quest toward the truth.

Morontia · 2006-01-19 04:38:50

tst....Love you man!!

tstandamn · 2006-01-19 13:51:52

Thanks and right back at ya, Morontia. How are things in New Mexico?

organic · 2006-01-19 14:26:07

tstandamn wrote:
I don't care how many people think I am an ass, because the "right" people know that I am not an ass. And the few who know that I am not an ass make much more difference to me than all the groupies combined.

I know you, Tstan, and you, my friend, are no ass. It's a pity so many people on the forum think that you are. They are unable to see beyond their own narrow minded mentality. They are unable to handle someone like you speaking your mind. What you actually do is cause them to REFLECT on all they hold near and dear to their hearts. In other words, you make them THINK. This is threatening to them. They want so badly to believe their way is the only way. Shaq does the same thing. If it weren't for people like you, I'd be off this forum for good. (O.K. between me and you it does get quite boring around here, but keep that one under your hat).

HERE HERE FOR CRITICAL THINKERS LIKE YOURSELF. MORE POWER TO YOU!!!

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epiphany · 2006-01-19 15:54:55

quite the contrary..I finally got tst damn to admit to everyone the way he stands politically. I am far from afraid of what tst damn thinks. ignorance keeps you in fear..and fear leads you to hate, which that is what you both are doing now. Reflection is a mirror you hold up to your face, and see want you want to see. You want to see a good person, you'll see it, a reflection is also what you see in others through yourself...
No I have no basis in knowing anything at all about you, it was YOU that said I had an IQ that was low, and lower than yours, and how would you know that...pity...on you...
Yes critical thinkers, you think you are...you have just made this forum a very hateful, judgemental place to be...and now you can have all the fun you want, talking about Whatever it is you want, and THINK that it MAY BE important to others, GO ahead and stand on your podium and preach...you know best, tell others the importance of not getting sucked into lies...GO AHEAD STAND UP on your soap box....
oh yes, one thing you both forgot..this is a forum about the capricorn starship, and with that goes NESARA, HAL/LAVAR, Helena, channelled messages ect...it's not called the right wing capricorn starship forum....but you haven't gotten that yet have you?
My point was that I take action in politics, I don't just sit around and wait for something to happen or to whine that this administration is failing it's tax payers...
so I brought out tst damn's political views for all to see....finally know where you stand...everyone knew where I stood...and I have strong convictions...go ahead put me down for that...it's only WORDS...they can't harm me...
I do understand that you want this forum to be carved the way you want it...this is what I get from your posts..anyone saying anything about NESARA should be prepared to get their ass whopped....I get that drift...anyone that says anything about channelling messages should get attacked, because they haven't seen what you have, they don't know what you went through, so that means everyone posting should be warned, you are like evangalist in your quest, not a very convincing one at that ...good for you, have a wonderful life and smile, you have done your good deed of the day.....
You can have your cake and don't forget to eat it too...
you worked like hygenas in packs surrounding your kill...and all who read this understand what I am saying...so enjoy your pretty little lives together...YOU don't deserve my energy...

Giving up doesn't always mean you are weak … sometimes it means that you are strong enough to let go - Unknown

The longer the explanation, the bigger the lie.- Unknown

tstandamn · 2006-01-19 16:12:38

People get opposition from me, kindly at first.

I question topics that are fact-free, most often politely at first.

And I ask for evidence. None is provided.

Groupie gets offended. Groupie goes on the defensive.

Tstandamn labeled negative, debunker, and dark side.

Groupies feel good when groupie goes on offesive towards tstandamn.

Tstandamn fields attacks, launches verbal counter attack.

Groupie launches into tirade like the one above and tries to put more of a negative spin on tstandamn.

By the way, I will again state my general political stance, shich I am sure epiphany glossed right over:

"If you need to see my opinions of politics, see my 1000 posts. Never have I ever agreed with this (the Bush) administration or on the war in Iraq. Never have I supported George Bush, and I do not support war. My stance on the economy and fossil-fuel pollution are firmly anti-present administration. Never have I posted otherwise, like you would like to think.

Admin does not ban tstandamn because tstandamn plays within the rules.

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organic · 2006-01-19 17:46:37

epiphany wrote:
I am far from afraid of what tst damn thinks. ignorance keeps you in fear..and fear leads you to hate, which that is what you both are doing now. Reflection is a mirror you hold up to your face, and see want you want to see. You want to see a good person, you'll see it, a reflection is also what you see in others through yourself...

I am utterly appalled by your post, Epi. I have never seen the word "hate" on this forum until today. Nor have I ever felt hatred coming from any forum member until now. You, Epi, are instigating hatred on this forum, not me or Tstan or Shaq. I feel no hatred toward anyone on this forum. And I'll bet a dollar that neither does Tstan or Shaq either. I am shocked by your outburst. The interpretation of your world is your own, Epi. Feel whatever you want to feel, but how dare you bring other members like me and Tstan into your hatred by saying we're the cause. My comment was to Tstan, Epi, not you. HE IS NOT AN ASS. But by your behavior Epi, (and brace yourself because I tend to be too honest) IT IS YOU WHO IS.

"You want to see a good person, you'll see it,..." And??? Tstan is a good person. You do not know him. I do. Why do you even post on this section anymore? Why do you choose to spar with Tstan and Shaq? You have your own cozy niche on this forum now, thanks to Michael getting you folks the "Nesara Believers" section. Stay there and spare yourself the "energy" you continue to exert with these two members. It's O.K. to swallow your pride and let their posts slide.

I seriously ask you to rethink how you're handling this situation. Don't make a mountain out of a mole hill. Feel your hate if you must, but kindly leave others out of it. This is YOUR issue, Epi, and not anyone else's. Own it and get over it.

shaq786 · 2006-01-19 19:47:18

It looks like my morning reply didnt make it onto this thread so I am retyping it:

I am back from my temporary vow of silence lol. First off, I agree with Organic. Tst is not an ass. He tries to debate NESARA's existance and get the point across that there is no evidence for NESARA. And he tries to help wake people up to the fraud of this scam.

I finally got tst damn to admit to everyone the way he stands politically.

Why does his political stance matter? What does Tst's political stance have to do with disproving NESARA? Even IF, tst supported Bush(which he said he did not, but that doesnt matter), NESARA still has so many loopholes in it, and that is the topic for debate. The topic is whether NESARA and channeled messages are TRUE or NOT. The topic is NOT whether Bush is doing a good or bad job, or whether the current system is better than NESARA.

ignorance keeps you in fear..and fear leads you to hate, which that is what you both are doing now

Fear of NESARA and NESARA aliens? I dont think so. I embrace disclosure from the govt. some day on aliens. However, it is my opinion that it wont happen. But thats another topic for discussion at another time.

As for hate, I hate the fact that people lie to decieve and fool. I also hate it when people lie to take your money. Thats why I am here. To expose those liars and frauds. But do I hate people here? NO.

anyone saying anything about NESARA should be prepared to get their ass whopped....I get that drift...anyone that says anything about channelling messages should get attacked

I try to attack the message and not the messenger. It is the message and the creator of the message(Dove, Candace, Lavar, etc) that are the cause of the problem. If you feel that I was attacking people in here, then next time I reply to someone else's thread that seems like a possible attack, then please address me on it so that we can get this issue resolved.

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organic · 2006-01-19 21:27:15

P.S. Shaq is not an ass, either.

(He sounds quite diplomatic if you ask me.)

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Morontia · 2006-01-20 04:08:07

tst.....Like we say "Land of Enchantment" In my younger years I called it land of entrapment...

epiphany · 2006-01-20 04:56:06

organic wrote:
epiphany wrote:
I am far from afraid of what tst damn thinks. ignorance keeps you in fear..and fear leads you to hate, which that is what you both are doing now. Reflection is a mirror you hold up to your face, and see want you want to see. You want to see a good person, you'll see it, a reflection is also what you see in others through yourself...
I am utterly appalled by your post, Epi. I have never seen the word "hate" on this forum until today. Nor have I ever felt hatred coming from any forum member until now. You, Epi, are instigating hatred on this forum, not me or Tstan or Shaq. I feel no hatred toward anyone on this forum. And I'll bet a dollar that neither does Tstan or Shaq either. I am shocked by your outburst. The interpretation of your world is your own, Epi. Feel whatever you want to feel, but how dare you bring other members like me and Tstan into your hatred by saying we're the cause. My comment was to Tstan, Epi, not you. HE IS NOT AN ASS. But by your behavior Epi, (and brace yourself because I tend to be too honest) IT IS YOU WHO IS.

"You want to see a good person, you'll see it,..." And??? Tstan is a good person. You do not know him. I do. Why do you even post on this section anymore? Why do you choose to spar with Tstan and Shaq? You have your own cozy niche on this forum now, thanks to Michael getting you folks the "Nesara Believers" section. Stay there and spare yourself the "energy" you continue to exert with these two members. It's O.K. to swallow your pride and let their posts slide.

I seriously ask you to rethink how you're handling this situation. Don't make a mountain out of a mole hill. Feel your hate if you must, but kindly leave others out of it. This is YOUR issue, Epi, and not anyone else's. Own it and get over it.

No you made the mountain honey..you started it when you helped tst damn along with your cheerleading...you made it bigger and bigger..
your pissed off because we were posting laurens channeling messages and from the candace site...you are the one that dislikes them..you are here for a cruisade...you dislike HAL/Lavar you want to discredit them, that is your mission...so you have tst damn and the boys..not too many that believe your bull..and it's your bull..it's your world...
don't tell me to stay anywhere control freak...I'll go where I want...and when I want...
Its you that went away and came back in a huff...and is on a sprey in attacking the ones that were here telling others of the news that we were anticipating...and this is why we chose the capricorn site...get with the program..this site is for the capricorn starship...hal/lavar..helena...and Nesara..believe in it or not..that is your problem not mine...I have no problems with Nesara but you all do...
Hate I have no hate not one little ounce of hate...I feel pity and it's pity for you and your rampage that you have in your little mind. I remember organic that you left the forum when you 1st joined....why? do you remember? you left because of the same reasons you are doing to others now...think about it...don't think with your emotions think about it with your heart....what you are doing to others on this forum is why you left...but you are on a mission with tst and the other few and so that is your decision...go for it honey...be that as it may...it's your free will...I care not for the mind games you play....
Oh by the way..you say tst is a good person..this is the same game that the people on the media play when they describe a candidate or a politician...oh yes he is such a good guy...he is the best..he is so caring..yes yes..we know how caring he really is...and this just brings you closer to him and the other boys on the forum...that is fine
I know where you are coming from...perhaps you don't....

shaq786 · 2006-01-20 08:23:31

your pissed off because we were posting laurens channeling messages and from the candace site...you are the one that dislikes them..you are here for a cruisade...you dislike HAL/Lavar you want to discredit them, that is your mission

Oh come on. Thats a little extreme. Organic is a nice and benevolent individual. Organic is here to warn people of Hal Fox/Candace/Melson and her experiences with them. As you know, I am here for the sake of debate, and sometimes debates can get heated from both sides; but I never ever seen any heat from organic. She is a calm and collective person.

that is your mission...so you have tst damn and the boys..not too many that believe your bull..and it's your bull..it's your world

This is only a voluntary effort to get people to wake up and pursue some REAL UFO research, and wake up from phony acts such as NESARA.

I remember organic that you left the forum when you 1st joined....why? do you remember? you left because of the same reasons you are doing to others now...think about it...don't think with your emotions think about it with your heart....what you are doing to others on this forum is why you left

I'll let Organic answer this one. However, from all of her posts that I read, she hasnt attacked anyone here.

I care not for the mind games you play

The skeptics here deal with facts and dont play mind games.

organic · 2006-01-20 16:54:22

"what you are doing to others on this forum..."

And what am I doing, Epi?

- I suffered a personal tragedy on New Year's Day and was off the forum until Wed. January 18th.

- Upon returning, I posted the following topics: cayenne pepper, Dupont's research finally exposed, organic chicken, organic meats and dairy, more humane treatment for our farm animals, and an ORIGINALITY thread for our forum, which, might I say, is a nice touch around here.

- I posted my two cents worth for my friend, Tstan, (and Shaq).
What are friends for anyway? This post was about how they are as people. I DID NOT debate any issues. Can't you read?

I DON'T POST TOPICS ABOUT NESARA, LAVAR, CHANNELED MESSAGES, OR TOPICS OF A CONTROVERSIAL NATURE. I DON'T DEBATE ISSUES ANYMORE. EVERYONE KNOWS THIS.

Epi says "what you are doing to others on this forum..."
Say what? WHO, SPECIFICALLY, AM I DOING WHAT TO?

Everyone knows the facts and can read past posts.
I no longer post about Lavar/Helena/Capricorn/Mormon Factor/ Channelers/Nesara. When was the last post I posted about these things which I used to debate? Pull up the posts. Last Novemeber. Where have you been, Epi? These issues are no longer worth my energy. I've even posted about why I no longer debate these things. It doesn't mean I can't put my two cents worth in to critical thinkers like Tstan and Shaq. I posted about them as PEOPLE not the ISSUES. Do you know the difference?

AGAIN, EPI, I ASK YOU TO COME CLEAN. Why are you LYING about me? Where are your FACTS about me? Why are you doing this, Epi? WHY ARE YOU CREATING DISHARMONY ON OUR FORUM?

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