StarshipCapricorn User Forum

enigma · 2006-01-10 02:10:54

Hello all,

I have two links that have much information about first contact and NESARA. The first has 2 or 3 telepaths providing info from the capricorn and other ships. It has been updated daily at the bottom of the page.

http://insights2.org//nesara/Armada.html

The second is a new site with messages from Sananda and Christ Michael if you know of them, it is also a forum where anything related to the comming changes is discussed. I hope you join and learn as much as possible. people send links to other valid sites, and there is an ongoing discussion regarding the free energy devices such as this site is discussing.

http://www.abundanthope.net/mb1a/

Both sites are adamant about first contact beginning this or next week.

Northern*Spirit · 2006-01-10 02:25:18

Hello Enigma!! Love your name!! Thank you for coming to our forum. I know you will fit right in!! Welcome to the Clan!!

shaq786 · 2006-01-10 06:13:41

http://insights2.org//nesara/Armada.html

http://www.abundanthope.net/mb1a/

Both are highly unreliable sites.

Both sites are adamant about first contact beginning this or next week.

Figures. Both sites are actually connected with each other. This was recently revealed by Organic, you can ask her for more info.

But contact wont happen.

Northern*Spirit · 2006-01-10 14:01:35

Enigma never mind him...He is just an Anti-Nesarian..He is paid to piiss people off. He especially likes to pick on new Forum members. It is when you are Fresh Blood that he can do the most damage...Just ignore him. I am thinking that if we all shun him he will dry up. Well at least I an using my mind power to manifest that......Hehe!
Have a good one.!!

Remember, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him listen to the Cowboy singing.

Did you ever notice that most of the older forum members just ignore him and that it is only the newbies that take it to heart?

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shaq786 · 2006-01-10 15:42:13

Enigma never mind him...He is just an Anti-Nesarian

Is there something wrong with that?

He is paid to piiss people off.

Just becuase I dont agree with NESARA doesnt mean I'm a disinfo agent. Get a clue.

He especially likes to pick on new Forum members.

I wasnt trying to pick on him. I was only explaining that those 2 sites are linked to each other. Lavar and Candace both support each other. Lavar already has credibility issues as it is. According to him, the GF should have landed last year! All I'm saying is if those websites are promising landings by the end of this week, nothing will happen. Those are one of the few things that I can GUARANTEE. So lets see whos wrong.

Well at least I an using my mind power to manifest that

Why waste time doing that when you can manifest a NESARA check?

Northern*Spirit · 2006-01-10 15:48:50

Hahaha!! Whatever...SHUN!!! hahah!

shaq786 · 2006-01-10 15:52:50

Normally when you shun, you dont reply back.

Maybe you can manifest me to disappear from this world. You and everyone else on this forum. How about that? Wana try it? Come on I challenge you to it!!! Get me to disappear from this world or this forum(without the help of the admin).

tstandamn · 2006-01-10 17:23:16

N*S

Normanlly I wouldn't feel the need, but I think what you said about shaq was both wrong and unfair.

Shaq maintains honesty in message and intent, which is more than I can say about the NESARA liars.

To think shaq is paid to discredit NESARA is a laughable concept. No one needs to discredit NESARA because NESARA does a fine job on its own. Just look at all the inconsistencies within the ranks of the NESARA guru community and you will find politics worse than any.

Shaq has debated fairly and constructively, which, again, is way more than I can say for the typical "believe everything so long as it fits" NESARA groupie....you know the type....introduce a bunch of hooplah, play it off like it is fact, and then run when it comes down to a logical discussion. If anything, at least you can admit that we have seen that over and over again.

Truth is, maybe enigma is a nice person. But that doesn't make him or her correct on the posts, it doesn't mean the sites he/she recommended are valid, and it certainly doesn't mean that the post should be free of scrutiny. It is shaq's right and talent to offer his opinions on any post he chooses. That is what a forum is. If one doesn't want to face scrutiny, then one has the right to hang in the background and watch the circus with everyone else.

I thought you would respect "personal choice and freedom" more than that, and not try and censor what is said...especially in a section that isn't reserved for "NESARA believers only."

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Validion · 2006-01-10 17:31:20

shaq786 wrote:
Normally when you shun, you dont reply back.

Maybe you can manifest me to disappear from this world. You and everyone else on this forum. How about that? Wana try it? Come on I challenge you to it!!! Get me to disappear from this world or this forum(without the help of the admin).

Won´t work, I think.
Using the power to create a reality of one´s own (in this case a realtiy without shaq) provides that the outcome must be for good purpose and to be done in love and light. Thinking someone off from this world is an interference in another one´s freewill (in this case the free will of shaq). Therefore N*S would fail desperately when trying to manifest a gone shaq.

Northern*Spirit · 2006-01-10 17:46:06

Yes you are quite right...But I can only HOPE....That he will take his little boxes with him and Leave.... Oh yeah I forgot...They PAY him to Debunk.....

Validion · 2006-01-10 18:14:43

@ shaq: I would like to know whether you believe in ANYTHING of the material this side and others deal with.

I know that in your oppinion NESARA is a scam, so far, so good, but what about the whole concept of Earth Ascension, First Contact, Second Coming, etc.? Is it just New Age BS? Or does this spiritual concept feel true to you? Maybe you just think that the ones like Lavar or Candace spoil and blow up the whole thing by distributing their BS among the Truthseekers?

Maybe you have already answered my questions sometimes before on other occasion but I can´t remember having read something like that and I don´t want to go through all of your postings, sorry

@ N*S:

In case shaq is a paid agent from the CIA or other darkside authority then the only way to get him out of here would be to pay him more than he gains now.

Perhaps we should ask Lavar to get a "donate" button implied on the Capricorn startside, saying "donate to pay off shaq" or something like that

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epiphany · 2006-01-10 21:13:22

tst and shaq:
you both being on this forum, is like me being on a republican right wing forum, and posting my political views as I do here.
and yes, when you make your views known you do make others run from here. They say why should I voice my opinion when I am going to get bashed.
People that are new come here to share information or what they are learning from other sites, from channelings, from 4 winds, from whiteknights911, ect..if these sites are bogus to you, doesn't mean it's bogus for them. What can make one person well, can make another sick, we are all different. That is what makes our world so topsy turvy.
That is why the administrator thought to put a NESARAs believers section ONLY..that is for viewers that can post and guys like U won't make them FEEL BAD...
When it comes down to it all..the most important thing in this forum is not IF Nesara is real, or NOT, or if the channellers are REAL or NOT, or lavar, or the capricorn. what it comes down to is RESPECT..for one another, that is why we are here on this forum.
When we disagree with one another we are actually giving our energy is disarray, we are creating energy that the dark side enjoys..believe it or not..you probably don't understand what I am saying..but it is there..trapping someone and holding them in a dark energy so that will answer your post their hearts beating fast and that is the energy they are feeding upon..get it? Kapesh?
Most of the time I dont reply to what you are saying about not believing and wheres the proof, nesara groopies are this and that...but I see whats going on and I see what you are trying to do and you dont even understand what I am saying, do you?
any one out there understand where I am coming from?

shaq786 · 2006-01-10 21:51:31

Oh yeah I forgot...They PAY him to Debunk.....

Its amazing after all this time, you finally let out your true feelings toward me. Finally we get to see the real paranoid name-calling/labeling N*S.

Who pays me? Any guesses?

Havent you heard of a skeptic? I guess not. Your time and energy is too invested into NESARA to look at both sides of the story. You probably think I look at only one side of the coin when it comes to NESARA. That is not true. As stated before, I once believed Lavar and to a lesser extent NESARA last year around this time. If you remember he had everyone hyped up about the landing that were to occur in late Jan of 05. When nothing happened, I was so suprised to see that no one even bothered to really start questioning his credibility. At that point, I became a debunker.

Anyways, why behave so immaturely and call me a disinfo agent? Why not try to debate the issues that I bring up? In this case, I called the NESARA intl site and Candace's site unreliable and I also said nothing will happen. So now you can put a reply and refute that. But instead you just call me a disinfo agent and run away.

I know that in your oppinion NESARA is a scam, so far, so good, but what about the whole concept of Earth Ascension, First Contact, Second Coming, etc.?

I dont believe anything related with NESARA becuase I dont see anything physical to justify it. And other stuff that I have looked at brings up all the downfalls and loopholes of NESARA. Until NESARA can better defend itself and provide physical proof of its existence, I will stay firm and say it is not real.

Is it just New Age BS? Or does this spiritual concept feel true to you?

Well my opinion is that NESARA itself is BS originally started by Dove. Other people (Channelers) then came on board the ship and started supporting NESARA. The ones that ask for money Bellringer, J.L., A&A among others are in it for the money. Other channelers like Lavar, and Candace have their own agenda as it relates to the mormon church(you can ask Organic for MORE info.).

As for the spirtual stuff, I dont see the spirtual aspect of NESARA. I also try to refrain from attacking the spirtual aspect of NESARA and try to investigate and ultimately debunk only the physical aspect.

In case shaq is a paid agent from the CIA or other darkside authority then the only way to get him out of here would be to pay him more than he gains now.

Can you beat 500,000/year? With the company car(SL 300).

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shaq786 · 2006-01-10 22:15:55

They say why should I voice my opinion when I am going to get bashed.

It was not my goal to bash the original poster above. For all I know, he could be new to this stuff. I was just merely stating that nothing was going to happen and those 2 sites were unreliable. If he or anyone else felt that I was insulting his intelligence, I was not. And I apologize if he thinks that I was. As you know my conclusion is that those 2 sites are bogus, and I believe that many people that follow those sites are misled and fooled but NOT unintelligent.

You have to understand that these type of sites will brainwash you into their beliefs and lure you in. One of their biggest weapons is the promise something and then take it away. The end result of this is that you are hurt, and you continue to hope for world piece, first contact, etc. You have no other source to turn to except back to these websites that promise it. Atleast thats how I see it.

if these sites are bogus to you, doesn't mean it's bogus for them.

But really its only one or the other. Its Bogus or its not. It cant be both. I am just merely putting up my case. If you want to ignore it then fine, if you want to debate it then your more then welcome, and if you want to believe it then feel free.

That is why the administrator thought to put a NESARAs believers section ONLY..that is for viewers that can post and guys like U won't make them FEEL BAD...

I see what your saying, but why not attack the message and NOT the messenger(forum member). Is that still offensive even if we attack the message ONLY?

what it comes down to is RESPECT..for one another, that is why we are here on this forum.

I do have respect for people. I may come on strong with my arguments against my debating opponent, but I do have respect for them. The only people I DO NOT have respect for are the people that lie to prove their point. This has happened a few times on this forum.

When we disagree with one another we are actually giving our energy is disarray, we are creating energy that the dark side enjoys

You are assuming that NESARA is real and alot of other stuff said from channelers is REAL. So with this assumption, if I were to argue against NESARA, then YES we would be creating negative energy that the dark side loves. However, for me NESARA is BS. And when I say something against NESARA, I feel I am liberating people from the spell casted on NESARA groupies by Dove and channelers.

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Northern*Spirit · 2006-01-10 22:39:10

Hahaha!! SHUN!! HAhaha!

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shaq786 · 2006-01-11 00:49:28

Hahaha!! SHUN!! HAhaha!

Ignorance is bliss.

tstandamn · 2006-01-11 01:14:37

epiphany....

What you said is simple enough, and no, it isn't difficult to understand. But just because you define the forum as such, doesn't mean we have to agree with "your" idea of what this forum should or shouldn't be. In your last post, you tried to define what this forum should be based on what you want it to be. Truth is, the forum serves many different purposes, and that is the beauty of it. If we were all to conform to a certain idea or standard, that would take away from the freedom and democracy of it all. This is why Michael, the Admin. allows people like shaq, myriad and myself to remain around. Because it is not his purpose to judge our posts, and we don't cross the line like A-C did and like vee eight was doing when he got banned. Don't try and define what Capricorn represents because I don't feel it is your place. Define it for yourself and let it be.

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enigma · 2006-01-11 01:49:30

Thanks,
Northern Spirit

I think I've seen your name before, and hopefully will again.

If nothing happens by the end of this month I will be very surprised. I've been following the whole situation for about 3 years.

One thing I don't understand is why the doubters come back every day. This site has gotten lighter than it was when it first gained the forum.

Don't worry, I've reached a point where I'm not offended at anything. I think I'm at that point the masters say to just be an observer in your situation. Don't take anything personal.

Till next time,
Enigma

It's almost time for the Sheldon Nidles update.

Northern*Spirit · 2006-01-11 02:04:01

Wonderful to see you post and thank you for wise words. Yes I will be eager to see that Post as well!! :)Cosmic Blessings to you Enigma so Lovely to have here.

shaq786 · 2006-01-11 02:11:58

If nothing happens by the end of this month I will be very surprised.

Well I wont. I am betting my forum membership once again. N*S wants me gone. So why the heck not bet my forum membership? If something of unearthly origin lands(has to land and is a spaceship), I will apologize and leave. Fair enough?

One thing I don't understand is why the doubters come back every day.

This is entertaining stuff.

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cec · 2006-01-11 02:51:28

Way to go epiphany............I understand perfectly what you are saying and I agree with you one hundred percent. I don't know you but I recognize that you are on this forum for one reason and that is to have control over others.
This is a control issue...you probably done this all your life right? You enjoy it right? .........You see no truth in anything do you?
Because if you did feel the Father speaking in your heart you would be agreeing with us....Truth would resonate in your heart and you would spend every day looking for truth.....even on this forum ..... I'm not saying this in an angry voice but a soft spoken one..........I only feel sadness for you. Really all we can do is pray for you shaq and hope you see some kind of light soon. Please join us...........You are right about one thing....there are politics in every organization.....but everyone will come together eventually.

shaq786 · 2006-01-11 03:41:48

there are politics in every organization.....but everyone will come together eventually.

Disagree. When something is passed in congress or policies are passed by companies on their workers there are always opponents and proponents. Even if NESARA was real(if it was I wouldnt be here), when it would be announced you would see different lump sums of the population rioting. Why? Becuase their favorite leaders have been taken out of office. So if NESARA trys to boot out congressmen and senators who have high favor from their constituents, you darn sure as heck better hope they have good proof to justify removal or all hell will break loose.

I don't know you but I recognize that you are on this forum for one reason and that is to have control over others.

Your obviously new on this forum so I'll cut you some slack. If you dont know by now, I debunk NESARA becuase all that I have found shows it to be fruadulent. If you want to pursue this further I'll send you my previous posts. In all the posts that I make, I encourage people to do the research and verify everything for themselves BEFORE they agree with my story. And if they dont agree with it then they can debate me on it, ask questions, or ignore it. In either case, I will continue to post my story whether they like it or not. But by no means do I force them to accept my findings.

You see no truth in anything do you?

I'm sure there is plenty truth in the UFO field, and govt. cover up of ET. However, there is no truth in NESARA aliens or NESARA for that matter. You obviously havent known me long enough to understand my position.

Because if you did feel the Father speaking in your heart you would be agreeing with us

People have different religions all around the world. Do you really expect everyone to worship Sananda once he makes his "second comming"? I dont think so. You should know that I dont attack the spirtual aspect of NESARA becuase religion and spirtualism is all based on faith. I attack physical claims made on NESARA that are non-existant.

I only feel sadness for you.

So you feel sadness for all that do not agree with you?

Really all we can do is pray for you shaq and hope you see some kind of light soon.

I also pray for you people as well so you will see this con job for what it is.

Lily · 2006-01-11 04:29:37

Wow.......before I forget, I love you all........

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Funney · 2006-01-11 12:20:03

I see here nice info-exchange, finally something from ALL of YOU ! I think every word is worth ! We are every day waking up to challenge another day with everything in it. I am very happy for that. We can be with too many others in the same time using forums as "insight". We all have our opinions, we must SHARE it, bad things to, its a very big school for all of us. Lets learn from each other. I am talking about NEW WAY of thinking. If i BELIEVE, that i can show a better "working & aprooved" way. Lets share it. And who is who and who says that or that, its irrelevant for me. Pickup your pieces, try it togeather, then aggain.

a full loaded day for all..

Validion · 2006-01-11 14:23:35

@ shaq: Thx for your reply.

Somewhere the following was written:
"The concept and intent of NESARA is to help you create that world on Earth. You do not have to know of this Act or, if you do, you don’t have to believe in its actuality—wanting the same intentions that it embodies is what counts."

For me the concept of NESARA is a brickstone for a world in peace, freedom, unity and abundance and I definitly support this vision with all my energy.
And in doing so, do I consequently have to believe in that stories about "911 stopped the NESARA announcement", "Clinton signed this or that" or "Bush´s barber told a friend of mine..." ?
I don´t think so!!

So if you regard some of those stories given by certain sources as BS, then no problem to me, because I am not so far away from you on certain stuff. Please consider that there is absolutely no topic in the world on which you won´t find someone talking nonsense about. But does that mean that I consequently have to throw the whole concept of NESARA into the trash can?
Again, I don´t think so!!

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Two other sites that are providing much information.

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