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Before we all bask in elation,
I must ask N*S where she obtained this information.

I've searched the internet twenty times like shaq,
for some trail of proof for NESARA to back.

I talked to bankers on the advice of Dove,
but found she's a fraud when push comes to shove.

The newsman tried to give Dove her day,
but she stumbled and fell at the groupies' dismay.

So why are you waiting? Senhuwa makes a good point,
It's like smoking a big fat marijuana-free joint.

The skeptic is blasted and told to look within,
as if that is a concept that I wasn't akin (to)

And to this paragraph I am totally in awe:

"NESARA was to be announced at 10 a.m. EDT on 11th September, 2001. The attacks on the World Trade Centre occurred just before 9 am that day. There were NO hijackers. President Bush desperately needed a war - partly to stop this announcement! The lives of NY firemen could be at risk as they evidenced the murder of some 200 bank employees who were actioning bank procedures for the implementation of NESARA that very morning!"

Another wild claim in support of the NESARA "law.".

Please show me one shred that this could be true,
a lease agreement, a paycheck stub, an office number, a clue!!!
NESARA had nothing to do with 9-eleven,
so please send some miracle evidence down from heaven.

So I take the name of skeptic, and a few others for that matter,
because I don't jibe with NESARA served on a golden platter.

The concept was developed by Harvey Bernard,
and twisted by scammers with no regard.

A gag order is absurd involving so many individuals,
when two friends can't keep a secret, telling is quite habitual.

But "I heard from a friend who heard from Bill Clinton's barber"
it's evidence like this that makes me a hard charger.

Rainbow money witnessed by tiaka9's good friend,
it was another wild goose-chase in the end.

What about the World Court, are they silenced as well?
I tried to find the NESARA ruling 8/22/2002, but to no avail.

So what does this all boil down to, as we all discuss
that Capricorn is owned and operated by Lucis Trust.
And guided by Mormons who channel and create,
more words of false hope that spur no debate.

And now as we speak, another money scam has been started,
by none other than Dove who will no doubt be carted
off to jail, and she'll still cry "illuminati"
and blame the bbb&g's for ruining the party.

So what if NESARA were enacted, would that abolish our borders?
And usher in George Bush Sr.'s famed "New World Order?"

I must go back to the Lucis Trust connection,
and understand the Arcane School and it's direction.
I read the website info through and through
I know their 3 main goals, do you?

Last edited by tstandamn (2005-12-30 16:05:33)

A credit card user can only hurt himself,
so be smart and put that plastic up on the shelf

NESARA will tell you to pay only the minimum balance
a sure way to stay in debt and finance the agents
who set up scams like these that are meant to deceive you
and keep you from focusing on realistic issues

And of this work of Aton, is this some other dimension?
Because to me it seems like an exercise in imagination.

But then again, who am I to judge?
I would simply like some factual information,
and then from my stance I just might budge.

wingflyer wrote:

QUESTION FOR NS -- will the messages from various matters and elsewhere be posted here also (like Matthew, St. Germain, Aton (he prefers using this name instead of Christ Michael)?

I think those posts should still be at the Channeled area provided for them...What do you think? N*S

Yup!

N*S is nice, a real classy act
but I challenge that website to prove anything as fact

"We should not AWAIT a big bang called NESARA!"



  But if you see a big bang called "IMPEACHMENT" all HEAVEN could break loose...!!!

  -Stan P.


  Wow! There's a lot of 911 and other truth on that web site.

  Thanks!

Last edited by stanplock (2005-12-31 04:02:18)

The problem is that Dove and channelers teach NESARA believers ignorance. No thats not meant to be an insult, it is the best strategy to perpetuate a scam and keep it thriving. If you can turn everything into a conspiracy, and get your loyal people to believe it all then are these loyal people going to even bother to listen to the outside sources(Quatloos, NESARA.com), nope.

I've seen N*S quote that NESARA was stopped becuase of the 911 attacks, and provide a link. Those words originally came from Dove herself originally. Are you saying that Dove has credibility? If so, then please state why. Sometimes NESARA groupies have dual positions. On the one hand, they will condemn Dove and believe she is a fraud, yet they will take all her previous words(911 being stopped becuase of NESARA) and amplify them on this forum. So in this case, a NESARA groupie may say...Dove is a fraud dont listen to her. Now in real life, this NESARA groupie may go and tell a friend that NESARA was stopped becuase of 911. Yet this NESARA groupie should have known that these words originally came from Dove.

if you do not pay your bills, can attach any property you own -- so if you have astronomical bills, everything you own belongs to them

Key word, "if you do not pay." Fortunately, I pay off all my credit card debt in the first month and spend responsibly. And you right about astronomical bills, those unpaid credit cards will build up in interest all becuase Dove told you to pay the minimum payment. Yet no NESARA groupie wants to attack these types of important issues and ask questions.

Last edited by shaq786 (2005-12-31 22:09:10)

I agree, epiphany, with much of what you said today,
but this illusion of NESARA won't make it all go away...

I agree, epiphany, changes must be made by us all,
if we don't act now, humanity will likely fall

But to me, all this channelling and false information
is leading to nothing but confusion and separation

New Age liars working with the same methods of operation
than the ones who lead Bush's agenda of domination

hey shaq,
Life is about hard work, and it depends on what work you are talking about. You are talking about becoming a phd, wonderful, what about some kid that works in Macdonalds, a meanial job that he makes 5 and change an hr, or we can go on and say a doctor who make 50 an hr, it is too extreme, and we aren't gonna get anywhere with it. Myself, I worked as a supervisor for UPS taking f**cked up calls for people who didn't get their packages on time..WAHWAH..so I made 10.50 an hr, I have 4 kids, and I worked my arse off, 40 hrs + a week, and then I  came home to a house that I had to take care of, and cook and clean and take care of crazy teenagers 3 of them at one time..I had my hands full, my husband was a bus driver worked 50+ a week, and busted his buns, and couldn't help me, cause he was trying to better himself
By taking a college course at night to become a certified computer tech, ok. I lived in and I swam in the beast, I hated IT. When my kids got sick no one could help me, when I got sick, who cared..I hate conventional doctors, they to me are the ass kissers of the beast, they know not what they do..I have seen more doc quacks than anyone here, I am sure of that for a back injury I got at work, and the work I was at didn't give one shiit about me..
you say that the GF should fix our world for pollution, at least that is what you I am thinking..why should they just fix it? We F**cked it up, and they can't just "do it" for us. We gotta fix it, we gotta clean up our corporations. Our present administration has a heavy hand in allowing corporations to get away in letting posionious emmissions into the air, land, water supply. THis is fact...look it up, the bush adminisrtation has clearly showed a %100 straight yes to allow this very thing to happen. How do you think he became prez? He has a nice little deal with these corporations and they got his fraudulant arse in, he wasn't elected and 2ce he was still put in as prez, because of this marriage we got in washington..
I got all my mercury fillings out back in 1991, and my kids don't get mercury filling we get porclin, there are alternatives, I have no root canal done ever, I rather pull the tooth if it's that bad, I won't give my kids innoculations,I don't use antibiotics, only natural alternative medicines for that.
I don't spray poisions on my land for bugs, yes, it's a big issue, the poision goes from the food, to the water and my animals will drink it,and the mice, and the moles too. You can use organic substitutes always. And you won't get the poision in your food and into your belly too, I am already a mutant from the already poisions I have in my body from the air, water and soil, and food I ingest, I don't want more..
Yes, You question nesara, so do I? I said before it was told that it is a concept, there is no proof in our what you see and what you get world...
I question authority when I was 9, I disliked the things they taught in school, I disliked what my principal told me I had to do, I disliked my bosses at work for they acted like their shiit didn't stink, I dislike our gov't for all the corruption they do to me and you and to my kids, I dislike the shiit they pull, and I dislike that you gotta work a job so darn hard you have no time for yourself, and then you get to retire and you just drop dead, the life span of a man should be longer and should be happier...that is all I am saying...
Nesara is a wonderful concept and will one day free us from these chains around our necks...
You are young shaq, you don't have a family to contend with, you haven't felt the BURN of the BEAST yet...
Oh by the way...Happy New Year! May all your wishes come true! 

Life is about hard work, and it depends on what work you are talking about. You are talking about becoming a phd, wonderful, what about some kid that works in Macdonalds, a meanial job that he makes 5 and change an hr, or we can go on and say a doctor who make 50 an hr, it is too extreme, and we aren't gonna get anywhere with it. Myself, I worked as a supervisor for UPS taking f**cked up calls for people who didn't get their packages on time..WAHWAH..so I made 10.50 an hr, I have 4 kids, and I worked my arse off, 40 hrs + a week, and then I  came home to a house that I had to take care of, and cook and clean and take care of crazy teenagers 3 of them at one time..I had my hands full, my husband was a bus driver worked 50+ a week, and busted his buns, and couldn't help me, cause he was trying to better himself

I see where you coming from now.

I am sure of that for a back injury I got at work, and the work I was at didn't give one shiit about me..

No employee compensation or anything like that? That sucks.

I won't give my kids innoculations,I don't use antibiotics, only natural alternative medicines for that.

Natural is always the best way to go. But why not innoculations? Have you done the Diphtheria, pertussis, and tetanus shot? Thats something that is given to little kids, or any of the other "important" shots your supposed to have.

I am already a mutant from the already poisions I have in my body from the air, water and soil, and food I ingest, I don't want more..

Its also pretty bad for chemists like me. I was constantly exposed to chemicals in the lab becuase their floating around everywhere, along with UV radiation lamps.

I said before it was told that it is a concept, there is no proof in our what you see and what you get world...

I agree, it is a concept. But there seems to be a wide variety of opinion on it. Some NESARA supporters will say it does physically exist but the dark empire has heavily covered it up. That is the story of Dove and the channelers. But then we have other NESARA supporters that say it is only a concept and not physical yet.

And happy new year to you also

shaq786 wrote:

I won't give my kids innoculations,I don't use antibiotics, only natural alternative medicines for that.

Natural is always the best way to go. But why not innoculations? Have you done the Diphtheria, pertussis, and tetanus shot? Thats something that is given to little kids, or any of the other "important" shots your supposed to have.

http://starshipcapricorn.org/punb126/up … hp?id=1195

http://www.fourwinds10.com/news/06-heal … rcher.html

I read most of it. They make several good points, but this doesnt mean that all vacinnes are bad. Research needs to be conducted to see which ones are bad in the short term and long term, and also find out which ones are harmless. Unfortunately, some people have different tolerances toward different antigens(foreign particles), thats why you see people responding differently, which can hurt one person and not the other. Looking at it from the perspective of the article, maybe they should admit that vacinnes can do harm in certain types of people. However, this leads to a greater question of whether vacines do harm in ALL people, and that includes the people who have no had any negative symptoms as a result of the vacine.

First of all, there is no "if." They do harm. It becomes a more difficult question to decide whether they do harm in those people who seem to show no harm. Then you are dealing with the kind of research which should be done, but isn't. Researchers should be probing to discover a kind of map, or flow chart, which shows exactly what vaccines do in the body from the moment they enter.