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Regarding the 911 event.

There had to be an event to justify Mr. Bush declaring War in Iraq and in that part of the world.  If you must know there were meetings even before Clinton became President planning the War.   It was all about obtaining Money and Oil.   Warmongers always make money off the wars.  Cheney's company Halliburton is getting something like $300 million a month supplying the military (they got the contract without any bids).

It was the same in New Orleans - money for reconstruction.  These people are insatiable for the money and all the money in the world would not be enough for them.

Let's just say that you are G.W.(I know,I know,just play along)  And that you knew of the announcement on that fatefull day. And that after it was televised, you and your gang would no longer be an employee of the united states of America. Being the former Governer of Texas, who was responsible for the killing of many in his state, what makes you think he would even care about 3000 more murders? OK, you can stop being George now, but it does make one ponder.                                                                             Happy New Year!,  Wild Bill

tstandamn wrote:

Shaq represents the facts so clear,
you'll find no proof of NESARA here

We aren't saying we support Bush at all,
but it wasn't NESARA that made the Twin Towers fall.

The Trailor Park queen is full of NESARA lies,
as naivety fills these empty skies

In the end, Dove will have no excuse,
for NESARA's truth, see quataloos

TST & let me not forget shaq..
we had this discussion before on another thread, they were investigating a large financial download within several computers when the towers hit..remember, I sent you that link..whether it was because of nesara being announced and they stopped it..
I don't know! it had everything to do with the moolah...
if it was not 'cause of nesara..ok...you win..
no proof, I got no proof..
but I got proof that there was substantial money getting downloaded into computers at that very time and day...
here goes the info:
http://www.wanttoknow.info/011218reuters
Following the Sept. 11 money trail
Tower computers scoured for clues to cash transfers

Erik Kirschbaum
 
12/18/2001
The Toronto Star
Ontario
Page A08
Copyright (c) 2001 The Toronto Star

German computer experts are working around the clock to unlock the truth behind an unexplained surge in financial transactions made just before two hijacked planes crashed into New York's World Trade Center Sept. 11.

Were criminals responsible for the sharp rise in credit card transactions that moved through some computer systems at the center shortly before the planes hit the twin towers? Or was it coincidence that unusually large sums of money, perhaps more than $100 million, were rushed through the computers as the disaster unfolded?

A world leader in retrieving data, German -based firm Convar, is trying to answer those questions and help credit card companies, telecommunications firms and accountants in New York recover records from computer hard drives that have been partially damaged by fire, water or fine dust.

Using a pioneering laser scanning technology to find data on damaged computer hard drives and main frames found in the rubble of the World Trade Center and other nearby collapsed buildings, Convar has recovered information from 32 computers that support assumptions of dirty doomsday dealings.

"The suspicion is that inside information about the attack was used to send financial transaction commands and authorizations in the belief that amid all the chaos the criminals would have, at the very least, a good head start," said Convar director Peter Henschel.

"Of course it is also possible that there were perfectly legitimate reasons for the unusual rise in business volume," he told Reuters in an interview. "It could turn out that Americans went on an absolute shopping binge on that Tuesday morning. But at this point there are many transactions that cannot be accounted for," he said.

Inside Convar's ultra-high security building in Pirmasens, Germany, is a dust-free "clean room" where damaged computer drives retrieved from the rubble are coaxed back to life.

Henschel said the raw material recovered, up to 40 gigabytes per computer hard drive, is sent immediately by satellite or courier back to New York.

Richard Wagner, a data retrieval expert at the company, said illegal transfers of more than $100 million might have been made immediately before and during the disaster.

"There is a suspicion that some people had advance knowledge of the approximate time of the plane crashes in order to move out amounts exceeding $100 million," Wagner said. "They thought that the records of their transactions could not be traced after the main frames were destroyed."

"We have been quite surprised that so many of the hard drives were in good enough shape to retrieve the data," Henschel said. "The contamination rate is high. The fine dust that was everywhere in the area got pressed under high pressure into the drives. But we've still been able to retrieve 100 percent of the data on most of the drives we've received.

but what should be evident is that there was more than $100 million dollars that was transfered..  that is the evidence...
what does that say for 911?
MONEY... the Power of money hungry bastards that planned 911 ..doesn't that make anyone mad?     , that because of money how many lives were lost? was the number 3000, you can't put money in place of a life..no money can replace a loss of life..all the baZillion dollars in the world could not replace one single life..not my child's life..Kapeash? Comprende? Senior TST...

Last edited by epiphany (2005-12-31 21:56:41)

Subject: Caller tells of World Trade Center gold movement on morning of 9-11

From: Stargate723@webtv.net (Mark Andrews)
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004

WAS THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK COMPLETELY EMPTIED OF GOLD IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE WORLD TRADE CENTER ATTACK ON 9-11-01?

On the morning of September 11, 2001, there were $167 billion dollars in gold bars in Federal Reserve vaults in the basement of the World Trade Center.

Since the destruction of the twin towers, there has been much speculation as to what might have become of all of the gold.

A female caller to the Bill Bochiers radio program on WLW, Cincinnati (11-06-04) told of a report from her friend who worked at the WTC. The friend said that on the morning of 9-11 she was on her way to her job at the World Trade Center, along the route she normally took. As she turned a corner at the base of the Center, she saw two large flat bed trucks parked at one of the entrances. One of the trucks had already been loaded and had its contents covered by a large tarp. The second truck was in the process of having its bed loaded with stacks of solid gold bars.

Both sides of the street were lined by black uniformed troops with machine guns who kept an eye on the operation and on the surrounding area.

The bewildered woman kept a distance from the activity and watched as the second truck was loaded, and its contents covered with a tarp. The two trucks were then driven away with the soldiers traveling along as escort.

The woman was so stunned by what she had seen that she turned around and did not report to work that morning, which, as it turned out, most probably saved her life when the towers were attacked and destroyed only about an hour later.

NO PRIOR KNOWLEDGE? questions Karl Schwarz.

KARL SCHWARZ has the big Pentagon picture in hard-hitting analysis:
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Re … hwarz.html
http://www.rense.com/general63/wte.htm

Yes I know .............friend of a friend...smile...........But wouldn't the gold be all melted...or scattered?........laying on the ground?

Gold bars yes, money transfers, okay
wherein does that include N. E. S. A. R. A.?

I didn't post that I thought that nesara and this transaction had any corralation, did I?

Sorry, I misinterpreted you.

You know, as I can tell, you would have liked to see it from the likes of CNN, or FOX news and then you would give it crediablity,NO?

I would take it from any source that has covered previous stories reliably and has a good reputation with built credibility. So in this case, the article came from the Toronto Sun(maybe a newspaper company?). A newspaper company is pretty well reliable in covering the news. They back up their articles with evidence and pictures when necessary. These are what I call reliable news media outlets.

Now lets consider a place such as fourwinds10 with Bellringer's blabber. All he does is tell you stories, no pictures, and no proof. The same goes for Dove, J.L., A&A and the rest of the channelers.

Well, don't you think that 100 million dollars was worth the 3000 victims of death? what is your answer? That is all I was merely stating?

It is not my goal to prove whether NESARA was an inside job, nor am I here to find other explanations of 911. The purpose of this thread that I started "911 was NOT connected with NESARA!!!!!" is to indicate that there is no physical evidence for the 911 NESARA connection. Anything that deals with 911 without the name of NESARA in it, is not my fight. Thats why when you posted that link to the 100 million dollar theft on 911, I thought you were trying to make a connection with that. So it was my mistake.

Last edited by shaq786 (2006-01-01 09:59:17)

WAS THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK COMPLETELY EMPTIED OF GOLD IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE WORLD TRADE CENTER ATTACK ON 9-11-01?

Just the Federal Reserve Bank...Never did say NESARA......Darrrrling!!

The concept of NESRARA is that it would be backed in gold,
But if the truth gets you in the door, you'd be standing out in the cold.

In order to agree on this important point and direction,
where is the NESARA/9-11 connection?

I don't care if there were gold bars being transferred,
prove NESARA was in the building and I might concur

A lease agreement, a picture from a loved one, a key, or testimony
pay stubs, diary entrys, some proof of NESARA that's not bologna (In U.S. we pronounce balonie)

I am glad we can discuss NESARA in this section,
Lionhawk, are we taking this in the right direction?

N*S ..... once again, I must ask:

Not to try and rain on your parade or put salt on your toast,
but didn't you say all of that in your other post?     :

"NESARA was to be announced at 10 a.m. EDT on 11th September, 2001. The attacks on the World Trade Centre occurred just before 9 am that day. There were NO hijackers. President Bush desperately needed a war - partly to stop this announcement! The lives of NY firemen could be at risk as they evidenced the murder of some 200 bank employees who were actioning bank procedures for the implementation of NESARA that very morning!"

To make a claim this absurd when push comes to shove,
I hope you have more proof than the words of Dove...

Oh my God, N*S please,
aren't you right in here with me?

You made the wild claim, not me...
and now it is I that needs another hobby?

This is the NESARA discussion section is it not?
and somehow I am playing games when the discussion gets hot?

You see, this is exactly how I have been mislabeled
because I challenge the NESARA fable...

How is this "my game" I must ask you N*S
is the NESARA section only for those who believe this B.S.?

Yes the whole truth is the aim
but not me who made the original claim

I am simply here to offer my two cents
and I try to do so realistically with sense

And if I am obsessing, you are here with me
and so is N*S and others as well, do you see?

Discussion take place so a truth can be reached,
but when claims can't be proven, the process is breached

This is the method deployed by every NESARA groupie,
to state claims as fact, offer no proof, then label me & shaq as the enemy

The truth I seek, and not only here at Capricorn,
I wonder all the time about JFK, 9-11 and much more...

Last edited by tstandamn (2006-01-01 18:12:05)